Re: [rtcweb] Cisco to open source its H.264 implementation and absorb MPEG-LA licensing fees

"Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" <fluffy@cisco.com> Wed, 30 October 2013 16:17 UTC

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From: "Cullen Jennings (fluffy)" <fluffy@cisco.com>
To: Matt Fredrickson <creslin@digium.com>
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On Oct 30, 2013, at 9:55 AM, Matt Fredrickson <creslin@digium.com> wrote:

> That is only as long as the binary versions don't have any additions or changes for such things.  Nothing says that the binary modules cannot be built in this way.

The binary module will be build that way. 

All the build scripts etc that Cisco uses will be part of the open source project so that anyone can build it them selves and check that their build matches the Cisco binary and check the code does not have backdoors to send all your video to the NSA.


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> Matthew Fredrickson
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> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Ethan Hugg <ethanhugg@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Lorenzo, 
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> You will be able to inspect the source yourself for nefarious things like tracking as the code will be freely available.
> 
> -EH
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> On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 8:47 AM, Lorenzo Miniero <lorenzo@meetecho.com> wrote:
> Il giorno Wed, 30 Oct 2013 10:41:27 -0500
> Adam Roach <adam@nostrum.com> ha scritto:
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> > On 10/30/13 10:20, Matt Fredrickson wrote:
> > > Does this mean that system information (for systems that this is
> > > installed on) may be tracked and sent back to the Cisco servers for
> > > accurate license usage count?  (ethernet MAC address, or some other
> > > system specific info) so that redownloads of modules on the same
> > > system are not counted towards your license usage accounting?
> >
> > My understanding is that MPEG-LA has a per-organization royalty cap
> > for H.264 (13 MUSD, if my memory serves), and that Cisco reaches that
> > cap quite easily with their own products.
> >
> > /a
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> Which doesn't preclude the fact the module may do tracking anyway.
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> Lorenzo
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