Re: [rtcweb] VP8 vs H.264 - the core issue

<Markus.Isomaki@nokia.com> Fri, 25 October 2013 08:06 UTC

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Hi,

Harald Alvestrand wrote:
>
> Formalistically, the people who argue for abandoning an MTI, like the people
> who argue for adapting an antiquated codec, have not put in a draft by the
> chairs' deadline of October 6, so have not made a proposal.
> 
> But I'm not the one who argued for this to be put on the agenda for 2 hours.
> The people who pushed for this to be on the agenda for 2 hours need to
> come forward and say why they believe this is a good use of our time. I
> haven't yet heard a VP8 proponent saying so.
> 

I thought it has been mainly the VP8 proponents who have insisted to continue this discussion and have it on the agenda.

I am a H.264 proponent but it's clear to me there is no consensus, no substantially new information since March, and for that reason the IETF should not pick either H.264 or VP8 as *mandatory*. And consequently 2 hours is too much time for this.

It is useful to discuss pros and cons of H.264 and VP8 and compare them, since most likely every WebRTC endpoint will implement at least one of them, but I think we need to stop pushing for the decision of mandating one of them.

Of course, if we come back to this issue every November, we can eventually choose H.264 as mandatory, after all of its IPR has expired :-) 

Markus