Re: [rtcweb] VP8 vs H.264 - the core issue

Harald Alvestrand <harald@alvestrand.no> Fri, 25 October 2013 04:16 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] VP8 vs H.264 - the core issue
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On 10/25/2013 01:13 AM, cb.list6 wrote:
>
> There is no holding back vp8, it can always be negotiated.
>
> My guidance is no mti.
>
> I, for one, am tired of the gang-land ipr turf wars and posturing. 
> This argument is all about ipr, and ietf is explicitly setup to punt 
> on all ipr issue because they are hard.
>
> Any layperson can see there is no concensus to be found. That's why we 
> designed for codec negotiating and negotiating away from failure is 
> left for implementation
>
Formalistically, the people who argue for abandoning an MTI, like the 
people who argue for adapting an antiquated codec, have not put in a 
draft by the chairs' deadline of October 6, so have not made a proposal.

But I'm not the one who argued for this to be put on the agenda for 2 hours.
The people who pushed for this to be on the agenda for 2 hours need to 
come forward and say why they believe this is a good use of our time. I 
haven't yet heard a VP8 proponent saying so.

So far, apart from learning a bit more about configuring x264, I haven't 
seen much new information.