Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming

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From: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com>
To: Martin Vigoureux <martin.vigoureux@nokia.com>, "spring@ietf.org" <spring@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming
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I am completely stunned by this.

The question regarding RFC8200 is still unaddressed.
The promises to deliver an assessment of IP Space burn as per what is on video from the montreal meeting – was not delivered on or addressed
The issues around the potentially problems in relation to rfc7112 – have never been addressed or commented on.

And – there are other issues which will be raised within the appeal(s) that are now coming – that’s just what comes to mind.

Further to this – how consensus can be declared on a document that was changed 2 hours before the declaration – with the changes directly relating to the issue at question – before anyone had had a chance to digest or comment on those changes?  How can there be consensus on something that half the world has not had a chance to read because time zones alone declare that they are asleep!

Absolutely amazing

Andrew



From: spring <spring-bounces@ietf.org> on behalf of Martin Vigoureux <martin.vigoureux@nokia.com>
Date: Monday, 2 March 2020 at 21:53
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Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming

WG,

as I had indicated in a previous message I am the one evaluating
consensus for this WG LC.

I have carefully read the discussions on the list. I acknowledge that
disagreements were expressed regarding what a particular piece of text
of RFC 8200 says, and on which this document builds to propose an
optional capability. Since RFC 8200 is not a product of the SPRING WG, I
have paid specific attention to the messages ([1], [2], and [3]) sent by
the responsible AD of 6MAN and of RFC8200.

My overall conclusion is that there is support and rough consensus to
move this document to the next stage.

Bruno will handle the immediate next steps.


Martin


[1]
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/67ZG76XRezPXilsP3x339rGpcso/<https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/67ZG76XRezPXilsP3x339rGpcso>
[2]
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/plidxjZFBnd4_mEzGsLC76FZmQ0/<https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/plidxjZFBnd4_mEzGsLC76FZmQ0>
[3]
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/uBYpxPyyBY6bb86Y2iCh3jSIKBc/<https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/spring/uBYpxPyyBY6bb86Y2iCh3jSIKBc>

Le 2019-12-05 à 18:15, bruno.decraene@orange.com a écrit :
> Hello SPRING,
>
> This email starts a two weeks Working Group Last Call on
> draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming [1].
>
> Please read this document if you haven't read the most recent version,
> and send your comments to the SPRING WG list, no later than December 20.
>
> You may copy the 6MAN WG for IPv6 related comment, but consider not
> duplicating emails on the 6MAN mailing list for the comments which are
> only spring specifics.
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> If you are raising a point which you expect will be specifically debated
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> This may help avoiding that the thread become specific to this point and
> that other points get forgotten (or that the thread get converted into
> parallel independent discussions)
>
> Thank you,
>
> Bruno
>
> [1]
> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-05<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming-05>
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