Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming

Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net> Fri, 06 March 2020 16:36 UTC

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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2020 17:36:09 +0100
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Subject: Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming
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Hi Andrew,

Well my point was that SR-MPLS with IPv6 has been supported by perhaps the
same vendor you have in mind .. the same who proposed SR ... back in 2015.
Sure it does not cover all platforms, but I guess this is pretty normal
for any vendor.

To the best of my knowledge they have no platform/software where they would
ship SRv6 before shipping SR-MPLS with IPv6 (at least with one IGP
extensions) so this is quite contrary to your claim made below.

Thx,
R.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 2:51 AM Andrew Alston <
Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com> wrote:

> Robert –
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> When I am told by a vendor – explicitly – with no ambiguity – that on
> certain platforms – they will never support IPv6 in the context of SR-MPLS
> on certain platforms – and it was SRv6 or nothing if I wanted SR  – then –
> yes – I am being pushed in a particular direction – without question.  For
> now – I will refrain from naming said vendor – but they are free to raise
> their hands and own up to it if they choose to do so
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> Andrew
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> *From: *Robert Raszuk <robert@raszuk.net>
> *Date: *Thursday, 5 March 2020 at 01:04
> *To: *Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com>
> *Cc: *"Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com>om>, "Darren Dukes (ddukes)" <
> ddukes@cisco.com>gt;, "spring@ietf.org" <spring@ietf.org>rg>, Martin Vigoureux <
> martin.vigoureux@nokia.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [spring] WGLC - draft-ietf-spring-srv6-network-programming
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> > When a vendor is pushing me to implement a technology
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> Last time I checked SRv6 is not enabled by default by any code base. What
> type of "vendor push" are you referring to ? Maybe you can share which
> vendor is pushing you with such strong push that you can not resist ?
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> Thx,
> R.
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