Re: [stir] current draft charter

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From: stir-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:stir-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
Peterson, Jon
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2013 3:27 PM
To: Hadriel Kaplan; Brian Rosen
Cc: stir@ietf.org; Henning Schulzrinne
Subject: Re: [stir] current draft charter - ENUM and databases

I wouldn't characterize it as transitive trust in that sense, no. Think
about it like a whole nation-state is under a tree, and you ask your local
Forest Guide if you need to find the tree of another nation-state. It's a
way to let non-overlapping authorities opt in to cooperating on a global
system. So yes, you trust your own tree to be able to point you to other
trees as a form of lateral delegation, as an alternative to top-down. But
within the +1 tree, for example, there is a direct delegation of authority. 

[RS> ]  Sort of .. The North American Numbering Plan (NANP) is an integrated
telephone numbering plan serving 20 North American countries that share its
resources. These countries include the United States and its territories,
Canada, Bermuda, Anguilla, Antigua & Barbuda, the Bahamas, Barbados, the
British Virgin Islands, the Cayman Islands, Dominica, the Dominican
Republic, Grenada, Jamaica, Montserrat, St. Maarten, St. Kitts and Nevis,
St. Lucia, St. Vincent and the Grenadines, Trinidad and Tobago, and Turks &
Caicos.

Jon Peterson
Neustar, Inc.

On 6/18/13 11:54 AM, "Hadriel Kaplan" <hadriel.kaplan@oracle.com> wrote:

>
>We already have a transitive-trust of model for caller-id:
>P-Asserted-Identity.
>It's the lack of faith in transitive-trust that brought us here, isn't it?
>
>-hadriel
>
>
>On Jun 18, 2013, at 1:55 PM, Brian Rosen <br@brianrosen.net> wrote:
>
>>> I read LoST a long time ago, and skimmed it again today, but I don't 
>>>get any inspiration relative to STIR.  What dots am I supposed to be 
>>>connecting?
>>> No need for a long explanation, just some hints would be good. :)
>> LoST avoids a golden root by establishing a kind of transitive trust 
>>model where an entity called a "Forest Guide" knows about other Forest 
>>Guides and their coverage region by some unspecified means and can 
>>refer a request for service in one of the known coverage regions to 
>>the proper Forest Guide.  Rather than having a root and a delegation 
>>model, it relies on Forest Guide operators working out who should be 
>>trusted among themselves.
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