Re: [stir] current draft charter - ENUM and databases

Hadriel Kaplan <hadriel.kaplan@oracle.com> Mon, 17 June 2013 18:14 UTC

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Subject: Re: [stir] current draft charter - ENUM and databases
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On Jun 17, 2013, at 2:01 PM, "Richard Shockey" <richard@shockey.us> wrote:

> 
> [Note: this doesn't mean NPAC can't be used for this database in the NANP,
> even though NPAC is a closed model and charged for query access I think.]
> [RS> ] 
> 
> [RS> ] Not since 2009. The NPAC like most national numbering databases are
> now operated on fixed price contracts.  The days of transaction based or dip
> charges are long long gone.  Cost recovery is usually based on the number of
> entries or TN's in the data base and an annual allocation model approved by
> the national regulator. 

Excellent.  Then there's no problem on that front, either. :)

-hadriel