Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transition solutions -- NAT64/DNS64 remains insufficient

["Heatley, Nick" <[e-mail]>]

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From: v6ops [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Bjoern A. Zeeb
Sent: 22 April 2015 10:15

See, the thing I like about this thread is, that everybody is trying to point their fingers to someone else in order to fix something elsewhere but not with themselves or where the &^%$#$%^&*() problem occurs.   Anyone saying “you cannot get rid of IPv4 literals” to the extend that it doesn’t bother anyone anymore is mislead.  You just have not tried hard enough (probably because you are distracted seeking solutions elsewhere).

If everyone complaining here, would work towards getting rid of them rather than discussing who’s problem it is to put a workaround in place, we’d probably be half-way done.  We have people crawling the web, people having users and test networks, people who seem to be able to write enough emails on the topic that they could even direct it to the right people.

I could even be more adventurous and say:  give them a 90 day notice, publish it (that’s the important part, so that yur users hear about it as well), and if they don’t get back to you that they’ll fix it (timely) break them.  Isn’t that what people do with major security bugs?  I’d be surprised if major shopping sites and news papers wouldn’t react, once their sales and page views go down by a few % over night, but you need to let them and their users know upfront.


[Heatley, Nick] Agree that at some point the finger pointing needs to stop.
My criteria though is not about "fixing at source", it is about being least disruptive or disturbing to customers.
The problem with the source of IPv4 literals is that it includes small businesses, mom & pop companies, as well as majors.
I am certainly not interested in sending out any "the sky is falling down" notices to customers, it is more likely they will just shift providers; and I don't want an "no IPv4 literal" flag day.
The problem has to reside with those on the side of providing the service, not punting it to the customers or users.


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