Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transition solutions -- NAT64/DNS64 remains insufficient

Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> Fri, 20 March 2015 05:42 UTC

Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2015 06:42:00 +0100
From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
To: Ca By <cb.list6@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transition solutions -- NAT64/DNS64 remains insufficient
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On Thu, 19 Mar 2015, Ca By wrote:

> My conclusion is that it is not feasible for a network operator to deploy a
> purely IPv6-only socket solution.  As has been previously explored, about

I agree, it isn't now. And this is the same as with most APIs, it takes a 
long time to deprecate old APIs. I believe it'll take at least 10-20 years 
before "open" operating systems will start to deprecate the old IPv4 APIs. 
Until then, the operating system will have to implement functions like 
464XLAT to work around this situation. It's not good, but I'd say this is 
pretty typical transition problem.

-- 
Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se

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Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Lorenzo Colitti
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Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ca By
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Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ted Lemon
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… James Woodyatt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Lorenzo Colitti
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ca By
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Howard, Lee
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Metzler, Dan J
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Xing Li
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Xing Li
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ross Chandler
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… James Woodyatt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Xing Li
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Mark Andrews
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Xing Li
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ross Chandler
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… James Woodyatt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Xing Li
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Xing Li
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Mark Andrews
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… James Woodyatt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Erik Kline
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… James Woodyatt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Tore Anderson
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… James Woodyatt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Heatley, Nick
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Bjoern A. Zeeb
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Heatley, Nick
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Heatley, Nick
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ted Lemon
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Alexandru Petrescu
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ted Lemon
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… George, Wes
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ca By
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ted Lemon
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Lorenzo Colitti
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Bjoern A. Zeeb
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Lorenzo Colitti
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ca By
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… James Woodyatt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ted Lemon
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Howard, Lee
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… James Woodyatt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Mark Andrews
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ted Lemon
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… James Woodyatt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ted Lemon
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Fred Baker (fred)
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ca By
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Fred Baker (fred)
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Lorenzo Colitti
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Metzler, Dan J
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Heatley, Nick
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Howard, Lee
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Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Gert Doering
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Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Gert Doering
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… James Woodyatt
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Metzler, Dan J
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Lorenzo Colitti
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Alexandru Petrescu
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Heatley, Nick
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ted Lemon
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Lorenzo Colitti
Re: [v6ops] The need for local-ipv4 socket transi… Ted Lemon
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