Re: [v6tc] Re: Tunneling and Transition Drafts

Hi Jerome,

I think I basically agree with your email, but disagree regarding the TEP
discovery.

The reason for that is that within an ISP is easy, but if you're a user
moving (traveling), you need to be able to discover it, not ask for a manual
configuration. Example, I don't want to manually change my configuration at
every hotel where a different ISP provides either via wired or wireless
access.

Regards,
Jordi

> De: Jerome Durand <jdurand@renater.fr>
> Responder a: <jdurand@renater.fr>
> Fecha: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 09:55:54 +0200
> Para: Thomas Narten <narten@us.ibm.com>
> CC: <jordi.palet@consulintel.es>, "v6tc@ietf.org" <v6tc@ietf.org>
> Asunto: Re: [v6tc] Re: Tunneling and Transition Drafts
> 
>> I do detect that there are folk that want to form a WG and that there
>> are some that believe there is a problem here to be solved (that needs
>> solving), but so far (AFAIK) the problem hasn't been articulated
>> clearly and (still) strikes me as a bit of a moving target.
> 
> The problem that was explained is how an ISP gives easily connectivity
> to its customers, waiting for access networks/equipments/technologies to
> be upgraded. I think this is a good problem that needs to be solved
> (talking here as an ISP)
> 
> Now I guess what is important to get is that we need something quickly,
> or new equipments will come before we have adopted anything. One could
> argue we can wait 5 more years and don't bother much. This is not what
> we did and we (as other ISPs) started to buy some commercial tools
> (tunnel brokers) fulfilling all our requirements (low latency is not a
> requirement for us). Tunnel discovery is not a problem for an ISP that
> doesn't care much  giving a TEP IP address to its customers (or
> preconfiguring the tunnel broker client). Then I can't understand that
> this could be a stopper for not making the group.
> 
> The point here is that as an ISP, I'd prefer to work with a standard,
> manageable and available solution. Is one already available? If yes that
> is worth documenting how to use/deploy it (in v6ops WG). If not, then we
> have to adopt a new standard (in v6tc as v6ops is not made for it).
> 
> Jerome
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> 
>> One (big!) example. There was lots of talk at the BOF and in the
>> presentation about the need for low latency, i.e., it was a
>> "requirement". And I hear "wireless" mentioned and "3G" at
>> approximately the same time. But, my understanding is that 3GPP has
>> already decided to go with ISATAP. So, they aren't a customer for this
>> work. But if that is the case, where is the real requirement for low
>> latency coming from?
>> 
>> Is my understanding correct in this regard?
>> 
>> Thomas
>> 
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