Re: [85attendees] Initial Atlanta experiences

[Derek Atkins <[e-mail]>]

It depends whether you arrive into Terminal E or Terminal F.  If you
arrive into Terminal E then yes, you have a VERY long walk to get over
to Terminal F where the new Customs/Immigration checkpoint is located.
However if you arrive into Terminal F then you have a much shorter walk.

I do not know how they distribute arrivals between E and F.  I've never
been to F, personally, yet.

-derek

On Sat, 2012-11-03 at 23:30 +0100, Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
wrote:
> I actually found the immigration pretty smooth and quick. 
> However, I am wondering whether I'm the only person who is complaining
> on this,
> but I found the walk between the gate and the final Atlanta immigration
> area very very long.
> I heard myself asking more than once: "Which ingenious person designed
> this terminal?"
> 
> Cheers, 
> Mehmet 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]] On
> > Behalf Of ext Howard, Lee
> > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 12:12 AM
> > To: Jari Arkko; [e-mail]
> > Subject: Re: [85attendees] Initial Atlanta experiences
> > 
> > I suppose I can't actually speak on behalf of the entire United States
> of America, but
> > as a citizen, I can say that I am sorry our immigration process is so
> bad.  I hope that
> > others will have a better experience.
> > 
> > Visit www.ietf85.com for a list of restaurants.  There are several
> within two blocks; I
> > had a good experience at White Oak, whiteoakkitchen.com
> > 
> > The taxi line is inefficient when there are many people (six cabs pull
> up, fill up, then
> > leave before the next six can arrive).  But service is reasonable.
> MARTA (subway)
> > delivers you about two blocks from the hotel, but I prefer taxi.
> > 
> > There is a gym at the Hilton.  I haven't actually used it, but the web
> site claims it's
> > excellent.
> > 
> > Lee
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [e-mail]
> [mailto:[e-mail]] On
> > Behalf Of
> > > Jari Arkko
> > > Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 4:59 PM
> > > To: [e-mail]
> > > Subject: [85attendees] Initial Atlanta experiences
> > >
> > > I arrived yesterday. Some initial experiences:
> > >
> > > Airport -- The airport itself was efficient and worked well, but
> immigrations was a
> > bad
> > > experience. We arrived a bit later than predicted, and by the time
> the planeload of
> > people
> > > entered the immigrations hall, there was an announcement that the
> agents are free
> > to go
> > > home. They did. Several hundred people waited in line for that one
> poor one
> > remaining agent
> > > (who is in good spirits, all things considered). At some point
> during the wait there
> > was
> > > another announcement that apologized they are experiencing
> "technical difficulties".
> > It turns
> > > out that they have been experiencing computer problems for some
> time, nationwide,
> > but to us
> > > in the queue this seemed ... wrong. I waited maybe one hour and
> fifteen minutes,
> > but I was
> > > lucky in how the queues got split up at some point, so others
> probably waited longer.
> > They
> > > increased the number of agents in the end, before that I was afraid
> we'd be there
> > all night. In
> > > any case, it was a long wait late in the evening, after a 10-hour
> flight sitting next to
> > the
> > > singing golf buddies at the back of the aircraft :-)
> > >
> > > Taxis -- Good availability, short ride, reasonable price, my fare
> was 33$.
> > >
> > > Hotel -- Pretty familiar Hilton experience, but exceptionally
> friendly staff. No hotel
> > wireless
> > > at 25th floor (in the Hilton), but wired Internet. None of the few
> dozen other visible
> > > networks seem to be open or working, so it is either your own
> connectivity or the
> > wired
> > > network. In the 27th floor there is an executive lounge for Hilton
> regulars, open for
> > breakfast
> > > and snacks during the day. The breakfast is quite limited compared
> to usual Hilton
> > lounge
> > > standards, but was sufficient for me. (Youghurt, pastries, bread,
> fruit, coffee, soft
> > drinks, etc
> > > but no meats or warm items.) The Marriott is connected by a bridge
> to the Hilton.
> > For the
> > > budget-minded, there's a Motel 6 next to the hotel as well.
> > >
> > > Other hotel services -- there's an outdoors pool, access from level
> 3.
> > >
> > > Food -- There is a nearby foodcourt in the Peachtree Center
> building. Recommended
> > for
> > > quick lunches, good variety of food options. I liked the Yami-Yami
> Sushi in particular
> > :-)
> > > Access the center via the the Marriott which is connected to the
> center via a bridge.
> > But
> > > walking on the streets may be faster. There's a coffee shop in the
> hotel lobby with
> > some
> > > sandwiches and similar.
> > >
> > > Network -- Hotel network has transitioned to the IETF. IPv6 routing
> doesn't seem to
> > be up
> > > yet, at least not from my room. Otherwise the IETF network works
> great, as
> > always! I wish
> > > the hotel wireless would extend to my room so that I could use my
> computer's wired
> > > interface for the testing that I need to do, but my requirements are
> probably
> > special. (Update:
> > > IPv6 now seems to work when I test again after composing this
> e-mail. But I've also
> > seen a
> > > network outage.)
> > >
> > > Mobile networks -- I have found that it is economical to carry
> around two devices,
> > one with
> > > my regular SIM where I can be reached on my usual phone number, and
> another
> > one with a
> > > local SIM that provides inexpensive network access as a portable
> access point. For
> > instance,
> > > T-Mobile SIM card with unlimited access (limited MBytes for 4G
> though) costs $50
> > per
> > > month whereas my roaming costs in the US are 8$/MB on my regular
> provider at
> > home.
> > >
> > > Still looking for: Restaurants. To be honest I have not seen one
> yet. I guess there
> > are some,
> > > somewhere :-) And I'm hoping there's a gym in the hotel. I'd also
> love to drop by
> > some
> > > climbing wall in the city, but have not yet had time to search for
> one. It might of
> > course also
> > > be that I run out of time to go there. I'll try though.
> > >
> > > Jari
> > >
> > >
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