Re: [85attendees] Initial Atlanta experiences
"Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com> Sat, 03 November 2012 22:48 UTC
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From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com>
To: Mark Townsley <mark@townsley.net>
Cc: "Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)" <mehmet.ersue@nsn.com>, "ext Howard, Lee" <lee.howard@twcable.com>, 85attendees@ietf.org, Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net>
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Same here. When I was done with immigration the suitcase was already waiting for me on the carousel, then a few minutes later I was in the taxi. Dan > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Townsley [mailto:mark@townsley.net] > Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 12:46 AM > To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan) > Cc: Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich); ext Howard,Lee; Jari Arkko; > <85attendees@ietf.org> > Subject: Re: [85attendees] Initial Atlanta experiences > > > I have to say, to my surprise I just had one of my fastest airplane to > taxi experiences of my life. The security check on exit was absent, no > significant lines at immigration, customs, or taxi stand. > > - Mark > > On Nov 3, 2012, at 18:32, "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com> > wrote: > > > It depends I guess where your airplane parked relative to the > > immigration hall. It's a big terminal, but not unique in its > dimensions. > > > > > > Dan > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: 85attendees-bounces@ietf.org > > [mailto:85attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > >> On Behalf Of Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich) > >> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 12:31 AM > >> To: ext Howard, Lee; Jari Arkko; 85attendees@ietf.org > >> Subject: Re: [85attendees] Initial Atlanta experiences > >> > >> I actually found the immigration pretty smooth and quick. > >> However, I am wondering whether I'm the only person who is > >> complaining on this, but I found the walk between the gate and the > >> final Atlanta immigration area very very long. > >> I heard myself asking more than once: "Which ingenious person > >> designed this terminal?" > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Mehmet > >> > >> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: 85attendees-bounces@ietf.org > >> [mailto:85attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On > >>> Behalf Of ext Howard, Lee > >>> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 12:12 AM > >>> To: Jari Arkko; 85attendees@ietf.org > >>> Subject: Re: [85attendees] Initial Atlanta experiences > >>> > >>> I suppose I can't actually speak on behalf of the entire United > > States > >> of America, but > >>> as a citizen, I can say that I am sorry our immigration process is > > so > >> bad. I hope that > >>> others will have a better experience. > >>> > >>> Visit www.ietf85.com for a list of restaurants. There are several > >> within two blocks; I > >>> had a good experience at White Oak, whiteoakkitchen.com > >>> > >>> The taxi line is inefficient when there are many people (six cabs > > pull > >> up, fill up, then > >>> leave before the next six can arrive). But service is reasonable. > >> MARTA (subway) > >>> delivers you about two blocks from the hotel, but I prefer taxi. > >>> > >>> There is a gym at the Hilton. I haven't actually used it, but the > > web > >> site claims it's > >>> excellent. > >>> > >>> Lee > >>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: 85attendees-bounces@ietf.org > >> [mailto:85attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On > >>> Behalf Of > >>>> Jari Arkko > >>>> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 4:59 PM > >>>> To: 85attendees@ietf.org > >>>> Subject: [85attendees] Initial Atlanta experiences > >>>> > >>>> I arrived yesterday. Some initial experiences: > >>>> > >>>> Airport -- The airport itself was efficient and worked well, but > >> immigrations was a > >>> bad > >>>> experience. We arrived a bit later than predicted, and by the time > >> the planeload of > >>> people > >>>> entered the immigrations hall, there was an announcement that the > >> agents are free > >>> to go > >>>> home. They did. Several hundred people waited in line for that one > >> poor one > >>> remaining agent > >>>> (who is in good spirits, all things considered). At some point > >> during the wait there > >>> was > >>>> another announcement that apologized they are experiencing > >> "technical difficulties". > >>> It turns > >>>> out that they have been experiencing computer problems for some > >> time, nationwide, > >>> but to us > >>>> in the queue this seemed ... wrong. I waited maybe one hour and > >> fifteen minutes, > >>> but I was > >>>> lucky in how the queues got split up at some point, so others > >> probably waited longer. > >>> They > >>>> increased the number of agents in the end, before that I was > > afraid > >> we'd be there > >>> all night. In > >>>> any case, it was a long wait late in the evening, after a 10-hour > >> flight sitting next to > >>> the > >>>> singing golf buddies at the back of the aircraft :-) > >>>> > >>>> Taxis -- Good availability, short ride, reasonable price, my fare > >> was 33$. > >>>> > >>>> Hotel -- Pretty familiar Hilton experience, but exceptionally > >> friendly staff. No hotel > >>> wireless > >>>> at 25th floor (in the Hilton), but wired Internet. None of the few > >> dozen other visible > >>>> networks seem to be open or working, so it is either your own > >> connectivity or the > >>> wired > >>>> network. In the 27th floor there is an executive lounge for Hilton > >> regulars, open for > >>> breakfast > >>>> and snacks during the day. The breakfast is quite limited compared > >> to usual Hilton > >>> lounge > >>>> standards, but was sufficient for me. (Youghurt, pastries, bread, > >> fruit, coffee, soft > >>> drinks, etc > >>>> but no meats or warm items.) The Marriott is connected by a bridge > >> to the Hilton. > >>> For the > >>>> budget-minded, there's a Motel 6 next to the hotel as well. > >>>> > >>>> Other hotel services -- there's an outdoors pool, access from > > level > >> 3. > >>>> > >>>> Food -- There is a nearby foodcourt in the Peachtree Center > >> building. Recommended > >>> for > >>>> quick lunches, good variety of food options. I liked the Yami-Yami > >> Sushi in particular > >>> :-) > >>>> Access the center via the the Marriott which is connected to the > >> center via a bridge. > >>> But > >>>> walking on the streets may be faster. There's a coffee shop in the > >> hotel lobby with > >>> some > >>>> sandwiches and similar. > >>>> > >>>> Network -- Hotel network has transitioned to the IETF. IPv6 > > routing > >> doesn't seem to > >>> be up > >>>> yet, at least not from my room. Otherwise the IETF network works > >> great, as > >>> always! I wish > >>>> the hotel wireless would extend to my room so that I could use my > >> computer's wired > >>>> interface for the testing that I need to do, but my requirements > > are > >> probably > >>> special. (Update: > >>>> IPv6 now seems to work when I test again after composing this > >> e-mail. But I've also > >>> seen a > >>>> network outage.) > >>>> > >>>> Mobile networks -- I have found that it is economical to carry > >> around two devices, > >>> one with > >>>> my regular SIM where I can be reached on my usual phone number, > > and > >> another > >>> one with a > >>>> local SIM that provides inexpensive network access as a portable > >> access point. For > >>> instance, > >>>> T-Mobile SIM card with unlimited access (limited MBytes for 4G > >> though) costs $50 > >>> per > >>>> month whereas my roaming costs in the US are 8$/MB on my regular > >> provider at > >>> home. > >>>> > >>>> Still looking for: Restaurants. To be honest I have not seen one > >> yet. I guess there > >>> are some, > >>>> somewhere :-) And I'm hoping there's a gym in the hotel. I'd also > >> love to drop by > >>> some > >>>> climbing wall in the city, but have not yet had time to search for > >> one. It might of > >>> course also > >>>> be that I run out of time to go there. I'll try though. > >>>> > >>>> Jari > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> 85attendees mailing list > >>>> 85attendees@ietf.org > >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/85attendees > >>> > >>> This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Time Warner Cable > >> proprietary > >>> information, which is privileged, confidential, or subject to > >> copyright belonging to Time > >>> Warner Cable. This E-mail is intended solely for the use of the > >> individual or entity to > >>> which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this > >> E-mail, you are > >>> hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or > >> action taken in relation > >>> to the contents of and attachments to this E-mail is strictly > >> prohibited and may be > >>> unlawful. 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- Re: [85attendees] Initial Atlanta experiences Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
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