Re: [85attendees] Initial Atlanta experiences

"Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com> Sat, 03 November 2012 22:48 UTC

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From: "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com>
To: Mark Townsley <mark@townsley.net>
Cc: "Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)" <mehmet.ersue@nsn.com>, "ext Howard, Lee" <lee.howard@twcable.com>, 85attendees@ietf.org, Jari Arkko <jari.arkko@piuha.net>
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Same here. When I was done with immigration the suitcase was already
waiting for me on the carousel, then a few minutes later I was in the
taxi. 

Dan




> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Townsley [mailto:mark@townsley.net]
> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 12:46 AM
> To: Romascanu, Dan (Dan)
> Cc: Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich); ext Howard,Lee; Jari Arkko;
> <85attendees@ietf.org>
> Subject: Re: [85attendees] Initial Atlanta experiences
> 
> 
> I have to say, to my surprise I just had one of my fastest airplane to
> taxi experiences of my life.  The security check on exit was absent,
no
> significant lines at immigration, customs, or taxi stand.
> 
> - Mark
> 
> On Nov 3, 2012, at 18:32, "Romascanu, Dan (Dan)" <dromasca@avaya.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > It depends I guess where your airplane parked relative to the
> > immigration hall. It's a big terminal, but not unique in its
> dimensions.
> >
> >
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: 85attendees-bounces@ietf.org
> > [mailto:85attendees-bounces@ietf.org]
> >> On Behalf Of Ersue, Mehmet (NSN - DE/Munich)
> >> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 12:31 AM
> >> To: ext Howard, Lee; Jari Arkko; 85attendees@ietf.org
> >> Subject: Re: [85attendees] Initial Atlanta experiences
> >>
> >> I actually found the immigration pretty smooth and quick.
> >> However, I am wondering whether I'm the only person who is
> >> complaining on this, but I found the walk between the gate and the
> >> final Atlanta immigration area very very long.
> >> I heard myself asking more than once: "Which ingenious person
> >> designed this terminal?"
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Mehmet
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: 85attendees-bounces@ietf.org
> >> [mailto:85attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On
> >>> Behalf Of ext Howard, Lee
> >>> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 12:12 AM
> >>> To: Jari Arkko; 85attendees@ietf.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [85attendees] Initial Atlanta experiences
> >>>
> >>> I suppose I can't actually speak on behalf of the entire United
> > States
> >> of America, but
> >>> as a citizen, I can say that I am sorry our immigration process is
> > so
> >> bad.  I hope that
> >>> others will have a better experience.
> >>>
> >>> Visit www.ietf85.com for a list of restaurants.  There are several
> >> within two blocks; I
> >>> had a good experience at White Oak, whiteoakkitchen.com
> >>>
> >>> The taxi line is inefficient when there are many people (six cabs
> > pull
> >> up, fill up, then
> >>> leave before the next six can arrive).  But service is reasonable.
> >> MARTA (subway)
> >>> delivers you about two blocks from the hotel, but I prefer taxi.
> >>>
> >>> There is a gym at the Hilton.  I haven't actually used it, but the
> > web
> >> site claims it's
> >>> excellent.
> >>>
> >>> Lee
> >>>
> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>> From: 85attendees-bounces@ietf.org
> >> [mailto:85attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On
> >>> Behalf Of
> >>>> Jari Arkko
> >>>> Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 4:59 PM
> >>>> To: 85attendees@ietf.org
> >>>> Subject: [85attendees] Initial Atlanta experiences
> >>>>
> >>>> I arrived yesterday. Some initial experiences:
> >>>>
> >>>> Airport -- The airport itself was efficient and worked well, but
> >> immigrations was a
> >>> bad
> >>>> experience. We arrived a bit later than predicted, and by the
time
> >> the planeload of
> >>> people
> >>>> entered the immigrations hall, there was an announcement that the
> >> agents are free
> >>> to go
> >>>> home. They did. Several hundred people waited in line for that
one
> >> poor one
> >>> remaining agent
> >>>> (who is in good spirits, all things considered). At some point
> >> during the wait there
> >>> was
> >>>> another announcement that apologized they are experiencing
> >> "technical difficulties".
> >>> It turns
> >>>> out that they have been experiencing computer problems for some
> >> time, nationwide,
> >>> but to us
> >>>> in the queue this seemed ... wrong. I waited maybe one hour and
> >> fifteen minutes,
> >>> but I was
> >>>> lucky in how the queues got split up at some point, so others
> >> probably waited longer.
> >>> They
> >>>> increased the number of agents in the end, before that I was
> > afraid
> >> we'd be there
> >>> all night. In
> >>>> any case, it was a long wait late in the evening, after a 10-hour
> >> flight sitting next to
> >>> the
> >>>> singing golf buddies at the back of the aircraft :-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Taxis -- Good availability, short ride, reasonable price, my fare
> >> was 33$.
> >>>>
> >>>> Hotel -- Pretty familiar Hilton experience, but exceptionally
> >> friendly staff. No hotel
> >>> wireless
> >>>> at 25th floor (in the Hilton), but wired Internet. None of the
few
> >> dozen other visible
> >>>> networks seem to be open or working, so it is either your own
> >> connectivity or the
> >>> wired
> >>>> network. In the 27th floor there is an executive lounge for
Hilton
> >> regulars, open for
> >>> breakfast
> >>>> and snacks during the day. The breakfast is quite limited
compared
> >> to usual Hilton
> >>> lounge
> >>>> standards, but was sufficient for me. (Youghurt, pastries, bread,
> >> fruit, coffee, soft
> >>> drinks, etc
> >>>> but no meats or warm items.) The Marriott is connected by a
bridge
> >> to the Hilton.
> >>> For the
> >>>> budget-minded, there's a Motel 6 next to the hotel as well.
> >>>>
> >>>> Other hotel services -- there's an outdoors pool, access from
> > level
> >> 3.
> >>>>
> >>>> Food -- There is a nearby foodcourt in the Peachtree Center
> >> building. Recommended
> >>> for
> >>>> quick lunches, good variety of food options. I liked the
Yami-Yami
> >> Sushi in particular
> >>> :-)
> >>>> Access the center via the the Marriott which is connected to the
> >> center via a bridge.
> >>> But
> >>>> walking on the streets may be faster. There's a coffee shop in
the
> >> hotel lobby with
> >>> some
> >>>> sandwiches and similar.
> >>>>
> >>>> Network -- Hotel network has transitioned to the IETF. IPv6
> > routing
> >> doesn't seem to
> >>> be up
> >>>> yet, at least not from my room. Otherwise the IETF network works
> >> great, as
> >>> always! I wish
> >>>> the hotel wireless would extend to my room so that I could use my
> >> computer's wired
> >>>> interface for the testing that I need to do, but my requirements
> > are
> >> probably
> >>> special. (Update:
> >>>> IPv6 now seems to work when I test again after composing this
> >> e-mail. But I've also
> >>> seen a
> >>>> network outage.)
> >>>>
> >>>> Mobile networks -- I have found that it is economical to carry
> >> around two devices,
> >>> one with
> >>>> my regular SIM where I can be reached on my usual phone number,
> > and
> >> another
> >>> one with a
> >>>> local SIM that provides inexpensive network access as a portable
> >> access point. For
> >>> instance,
> >>>> T-Mobile SIM card with unlimited access (limited MBytes for 4G
> >> though) costs $50
> >>> per
> >>>> month whereas my roaming costs in the US are 8$/MB on my regular
> >> provider at
> >>> home.
> >>>>
> >>>> Still looking for: Restaurants. To be honest I have not seen one
> >> yet. I guess there
> >>> are some,
> >>>> somewhere :-) And I'm hoping there's a gym in the hotel. I'd also
> >> love to drop by
> >>> some
> >>>> climbing wall in the city, but have not yet had time to search
for
> >> one. It might of
> >>> course also
> >>>> be that I run out of time to go there. I'll try though.
> >>>>
> >>>> Jari
> >>>>
> >>>>
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