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Re: [91attendees] IETF Fee increase alternatives

Jon Hudson <jon.hudson@gmail.com> Fri, 14 November 2014 21:00 UTC

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Subject: Re: [91attendees] IETF Fee increase alternatives
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What if you had the option of paying full price even if Early Bird still applied?

Then use the difference as a donation to help offset someone else.

Might even get some of us to register earlier knowing it could help someone else attend.

Would just be nice if those of us with "corporate sponsors" could help those who are "free agents"

Jon

> On Nov 14, 2014, at 10:14 AM, Fred Baker (fred) <fred@cisco.com> wrote:
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>> On Nov 14, 2014, at 9:32 AM, Dominik Bay <db@rrbone.net> wrote:
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>> I think IETF is missing the (large) budget coming from membership fees
>> and mostly relies on sponsors and meeting fees for the whole meeting.
> 
> Pretty much. We also have a somewhat invisible sponsor in ISOC, which uses money from organizational members supplemented by some PIR funding to fill the gaps; that is the closest thing we have to the membership fees another organization might have. We should note, btw, that the money is not really about “what does it cost to meet in a hotel” as much as “how do we run a certain set of services 24X7X365 and in addition meet several times a year."
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