Re: [91attendees] IETF Fee increase alternatives

[Dominik Bay <[e-mail]>]

On 11/14/2014 08:40 AM, Jared Mauch wrote:
>> On Nov 13, 2014, at 11:33 PM, Bob Hinden <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> Thanks for asking this way.  I think we should consider if we are willing to compromise some of what we like to save some money.  For example, we like to have a "single roof" venue where the meeting and hotel rooms are in the same venue.  We might be able to save money by having the meeting in a convention center and have the hotels be some distance away.  It would require folks to walk, taxi, bus, subway, etc. to get there and the choices for lunches would not be as good.  This might lower the IETFs cost for meeting space and the attendee cost for the hotel rooms.  The IAOC does not currently look at these types of venues based on community feedback.
>> It would be good to hear from folks if they would like the IAOC to consider other types of venues if it results in lower costs for the IETF and attendees.
> 
> in attending other conferences, NANOG, IETF, RIPE end up being lower cost than more commercial oriented conferences, e.g.: Gartner, etc.
> 
> The welcome reception seemed to be right on the mark for me and my experience for food quality, quantities, etc.
> Coming from the operator side, e.g.: NANOG/RIPE, it took me a day to adjust to IETF provides, this isn’t a complaint, just that I had other (perhaps irrational) expectations for the level of food provided in the morning.  NANOG also has sponsors for each individual break session, etc as well as a larger “beer and gear” event with food/drinks.
> I’m not expecting IETF to feed me all my meals, nor cater to my specific dietary wackiness, that’s naturally on me.

Agreed, especially for RIPE where the meeting is supported by the money
coming from RIPE NCC (coming from LIR membership fees), Sponsors and the
(subsidized) meeting fee. They're able to provide a full service
catering in nice venues.

I think IETF is missing the (large) budget coming from membership fees
and mostly relies on sponsors and meeting fees for the whole meeting.

The current model is fine for me, as introducing another fee tier is
hard. You can do something like <10kUSD revenue 500USD per ticket,
>10kUSD revenue 1000USD per ticket. But this would be a pure trust-tier,
as who is going to check and verify?