Re: [91attendees] IETF Fee increase alternatives

[Ray Pelletier <[e-mail]>]

On Nov 14, 2014, at 7:19 AM, Livingood, Jason <[e-mail]> wrote:

> I believe that snack breaks and the reception are all sponsored.

We have snack breaks and the Welcome Reception regardless of whether
there is a sponsor. And typically Sponsorship does not completely cover
either.  At this meeting NBCUniversal took the Tier II Welcome Reception
sponsorship that enabled the open bar.  The 1000 Minions were a Bonus.

Ray


> I think
> that generally means that the costs for such things are not factored into
> the meeting fees, but I may be incorrect.
> 
> Jason
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/13/14, 6:59 PM, "Tom Pusateri" <[e-mail]> wrote:
> 
>> I think that's a neat idea!
>> 
>> We could have free beer AND a cash bar at the reception. You can drink
>> the free beer if you want or you can contribute to the overall cost by
>> paying for your own beer.
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2014, at 6:43 PM, Jon Hudson <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I would also like the choice of paying more when I can and having the
>>> extra go to someone who needs cost assistance.
>>> 
>>> Jon
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 13, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Bob Hinden <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Tom,
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 13, 2014, at 6:00 PM, Tom Pusateri <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I know the organizers are trying to do the best they can and they
>>>>> have a lot of demands from us on them for features and great hotel
>>>>> venues but I just noticed the fee increase from $650 to $700 for the
>>>>> next IETF meeting.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This may not seem like much difference to most corporate attendees
>>>>> but it's already a burden for small companies and self employed.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There are some of us that would rather do with less services than pay
>>>>> more.
>>>>> 
>>>>> As far as I'm concerned, you can cut things down to the bare minimum.
>>>>> I can get my own snacks, drinks, breakfast. We can minimize the extra
>>>>> meeting rooms, etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would rather have a greater diversity of companies, individuals,
>>>>> and students than price these people out of the event.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm not criticizing the current decisions but just suggesting a
>>>>> different path as an option.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for asking this way.  I think we should consider if we are
>>>> willing to compromise some of what we like to save some money.  For
>>>> example, we like to have a "single roof" venue where the meeting and
>>>> hotel rooms are in the same venue.  We might be able to save money by
>>>> having the meeting in a convention center and have the hotels be some
>>>> distance away.  It would require folks to walk, taxi, bus, subway, etc.
>>>> to get there and the choices for lunches would not be as good.  This
>>>> might lower the IETFs cost for meeting space and the attendee cost for
>>>> the hotel rooms.  The IAOC does not currently look at these types of
>>>> venues based on community feedback.
>>>> 
>>>> It would be good to hear from folks if they would like the IAOC to
>>>> consider other types of venues if it results in lower costs for the
>>>> IETF and attendees.
>>>> 
>>>> Bob (speaking for myself)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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