Re: [91attendees] IETF Fee increase alternatives

"Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood@cable.comcast.com> Fri, 14 November 2014 17:19 UTC

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From: "Livingood, Jason" <Jason_Livingood@cable.comcast.com>
To: Tom Pusateri <pusateri@bangj.com>, Jon Hudson <jon.hudson@gmail.com>
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I believe that snack breaks and the reception are all sponsored. I think
that generally means that the costs for such things are not factored into
the meeting fees, but I may be incorrect.

Jason



On 11/13/14, 6:59 PM, "Tom Pusateri" <pusateri@bangj.com> wrote:

>I think that's a neat idea!
>
>We could have free beer AND a cash bar at the reception. You can drink
>the free beer if you want or you can contribute to the overall cost by
>paying for your own beer.
>
>Tom
>
>
>
>> On Nov 13, 2014, at 6:43 PM, Jon Hudson <jon.hudson@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I would also like the choice of paying more when I can and having the
>>extra go to someone who needs cost assistance.
>> 
>> Jon
>> 
>>> On Nov 13, 2014, at 6:33 PM, Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Tom,
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 13, 2014, at 6:00 PM, Tom Pusateri <pusateri@bangj.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I know the organizers are trying to do the best they can and they
>>>>have a lot of demands from us on them for features and great hotel
>>>>venues but I just noticed the fee increase from $650 to $700 for the
>>>>next IETF meeting.
>>>> 
>>>> This may not seem like much difference to most corporate attendees
>>>>but it's already a burden for small companies and self employed.
>>>> 
>>>> There are some of us that would rather do with less services than pay
>>>>more.
>>>> 
>>>> As far as I'm concerned, you can cut things down to the bare minimum.
>>>>I can get my own snacks, drinks, breakfast. We can minimize the extra
>>>>meeting rooms, etc.
>>>> 
>>>> I would rather have a greater diversity of companies, individuals,
>>>>and students than price these people out of the event.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not criticizing the current decisions but just suggesting a
>>>>different path as an option.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for asking this way.  I think we should consider if we are
>>>willing to compromise some of what we like to save some money.  For
>>>example, we like to have a "single roof" venue where the meeting and
>>>hotel rooms are in the same venue.  We might be able to save money by
>>>having the meeting in a convention center and have the hotels be some
>>>distance away.  It would require folks to walk, taxi, bus, subway, etc.
>>>to get there and the choices for lunches would not be as good.  This
>>>might lower the IETFs cost for meeting space and the attendee cost for
>>>the hotel rooms.  The IAOC does not currently look at these types of
>>>venues based on community feedback.
>>> 
>>> It would be good to hear from folks if they would like the IAOC to
>>>consider other types of venues if it results in lower costs for the
>>>IETF and attendees.
>>> 
>>> Bob (speaking for myself)
>>> 
>>> 
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