Re: [apps-review] Suggested changes for Applications Area Review Team

[SM <[e-mail]>]

Hi John, Alexey,

At 15:09 20-03-2011, John C Klensin wrote:
>One comment on that question: one of the things the IETF does
>much less well than it should is to arrange things that
>familiarize new people with how the system works and generally
>to do leadership development.  While one might gain something in
>efficiency by having a team lead who was a former AD, it would
>be _far_ better, IMO, to use the position as an opportunity for
>increased understanding of the community, actors, and dynamics
>(as I am sure it has been for you).   As long as things are

As a general comment, I agree that the IETF does much less well that 
it comes to leadership development.

I am not going to take a stance on which option is better.  I would 
like the team to discuss the matter and decide on which option it 
prefers.  I have a better understanding than before of the community 
actors and the dynamics as Peter and Alexey have been very 
helpful.  I am sure I can learn something from Pete too.  However, 
what is good for me is not necessarily good for the IETF.

>fairly open, there will always be present and ex-ADs ready to
>step in and provide that sort of guidance, perhaps even when the
>team lead doesn't want it :-).  But let's not throw away the
>opportunity to read more people in on the system in order to
>gain small marginal efficiencies by reusing the same folks over
>and over again.

I am glad to see the ex-ADs on this mailing list stepping in to 
provide guidance.  In pure IETF style, people do not wait to be asked 
before giving their opinion. :-)  It was good to have people actually 
disagreeing with me on the implicit ACK.

At 11:02 21-03-2011, Alexey Melnikov wrote:
>SM, I would like to know why you think that.

There is the continuity of the team and continuity within the 
IETF.  John explained how the position can be useful for leadership 
development.  Continuity is also about changing people with the work 
still getting done.  Such changes can be difficult when the person 
you are replacing has been in that role for a long time.

Best regards,
-sm