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Re: [Cfrg] Requesting removal of CFRG co-chair

Tao Effect <contact@taoeffect.com> Tue, 24 December 2013 02:48 UTC

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To: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
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On Dec 23, 2013, at 9:35 PM, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:

> 
> So I'm willing to bet that you don't know that the entire IAB
> met with Kevin to review the CFRG in Vancouver, as is commonly
> done with one IRTF RG each IETF meeting.

It seems like you're not understanding the point that I'm making.

It *doesn't matter* if you met someone who calls themselves Kevin at some meeting.

Or if you see that someone named Kevin has an RFC to their name.

That (1) doesn't prove that you're not talking to someone with an alias, and (2) is not sufficient accountability for a co-chair of an organization like this (IMO).

> 
> If you (and others who've very recently turned up on this list)
> actually care about pervasive monitoring, you should desist
> from this kind of nonsense and think more about how to mitigate
> the problem. 

I agree. Do you mean something like this:

http://okturtles.com/other/dnsnmc_okturtles_overview.pdf  ?

I sent that proposal to multiple IETF mailing lists over a week ago. You can have a look at the discussions that have taken place so far about it here:

http://okturtles.com/#reviews

- Greg

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