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Re: [Cfrg] Requesting removal of CFRG co-chair

Tao Effect <contact@taoeffect.com> Tue, 24 December 2013 20:25 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Cfrg] Requesting removal of CFRG co-chair
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On Dec 24, 2013, at 3:09 PM, Dan Harkins <dharkins@lounge.org> wrote:

>  The lack of opportunity to raise objections is due to the fact that he
> (and the others who recently subscribed to CFRG because they follow him
> on twitter and heeded his call to join the crusade) were not involved at
> the time.

Sorry, I don't quite follow your logic.

Are you saying that the appointment was made without a request for
feedback because some people were not subscribed to this list?

> Realize too that had Kevin's employer not given these people the
> opportunity to strike their fashionable pose there would be no discussion
> of IRTF process or what the CFRG's place in the world is.

The issues that have been raised are nothing but "fashionable poses"?

How do you figure that?

> So this really
> isn't about IRTF process or the CFRG. It all comes back to the conspiracy
> theory, and the guilt-by-association, and the fallacious ad hominem
> attacks.

What is the "conspiracy theory"?

What are the "fallacious ad hominem attacks"?

Thanks,
Greg

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