Re: [Cfrg] Requesting removal of CFRG co-chair

Robert Ransom <rransom.8774@gmail.com> Mon, 23 December 2013 08:57 UTC

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On 12/22/13, Alyssa Rowan <akr@akr.io> wrote:

> On Thu 12 Dec 2013 16:06, on TLS WG, Trevor Perrin wrote:
>>> The consequences of adopting a protocol we think is secure that
>>> isn't: dead people.

That statement was made by Watson Ladd (in
<http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/cfrg/current/msg03549.html>),
not Trevor Perrin.


I note that none of the few people who are speaking in defense of
Kevin Igoe have even acknowledged the specific acts that Trevor Perrin
listed at the beginning of this thread, much less tried to refute the
charges or defend Mr. Igoe's acts.


Robert Ransom