Re: [Cfrg] Requesting removal of CFRG co-chair
Yoav Nir <ynir@checkpoint.com> Sun, 29 December 2013 08:42 UTC
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From: Yoav Nir <ynir@checkpoint.com>
To: idontneedcoffee <idontneedcoffee@gmail.com>, "cfrg@irtf.org" <cfrg@irtf.org>
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Wouldn't endorsing ROT13 as the alternate cipher achieve the same goal? From: Cfrg [mailto:cfrg-bounces@irtf.org] On Behalf Of idontneedcoffee Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2013 3:41 AM To: cfrg@irtf.org Subject: Re: [Cfrg] Requesting removal of CFRG co-chair I think Kevin should stay as a co-chair. Thanks to the recent "leaks" of his employer, he brings a lot of (needed*) attention to CFRG/IETF; if he would resign, most critics would consider(most of) their work done, it would lower the level of mistrust against cfrg from the general itsec crowd and that would in end-effect leave all the processes outlined in this thread as ineffective/questionable in tact. It wouldn't solve a single issue of the proponents of this notion(please think it through..) and undermine the only measure that can be effective(in limited circumstances) - public audit/control in short > If Kevin stays, every step of CFRG will be thoroughly watched by hundreds of motivated people - I would not want to give them an easy way to vent their frustration when there is some real work(..) that can be fuelled by it.. /idnc On 12/28/2013 09:48 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: On Dec 28, 2013, at 10:51 AM, Tao Effect <contact@taoeffect.com><mailto:contact@taoeffect.com> wrote: Oh, that's right, I think I remember now that to reach consensus it needs there to be "no objections" within some sort "reasonableness"? No, that's not it either. The IRTF (this is not the IETF) uses a consensus process that is based on loose agreement among reasonable people. If that's the case then please just ignore that email. Done. --Paul Hoffman _______________________________________________ Cfrg mailing list Cfrg@irtf.org<mailto:Cfrg@irtf.org> http://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/cfrg Email secured by Check Point
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