Re: [Cfrg] Requesting removal of CFRG co-chair

Tom Ritter <tom@ritter.vg> Tue, 24 December 2013 19:16 UTC

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Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2013 14:16:18 -0500
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From: Tom Ritter <tom@ritter.vg>
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Subject: Re: [Cfrg] Requesting removal of CFRG co-chair
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On Dec 24, 2013 1:45 PM, "Brian Weis" <bew@cisco.com> wrote:
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> On Dec 24, 2013, at 4:02 AM, Trevor Perrin <trevp@trevp.net> wrote:
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> [snip]
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> > Has there ever been an open process for CFRG chairs?  I think you and
> > Ran Canetti were appointed at the beginning of CFRG, and then you
> > appointed Kevin as Ran's replacement with no call for other
> > candidates.  Is that right?
>
> I'm appalled that now this discussion has apparently been reduced to
> a thinly veiled hint at conspiracy and/or collusion. Sheesh. Get to
> know IRTF process, please.

I did not interpret it as a reference to conspiracy, rather a note of the
lack of opportunity to raise objections, ask for volunteers, or
nominations. I'm not familiar with the actual appointment in question, it's
likely Kevin was an active participant that, aside from his employer, made
sense. But, if there was no opportunity to raise concern/conflict of
interest, this lack of opportunity to provide input is worth noting. Not
that it means conspiracy, just that it makes this conversation all the more
relevant (as there is no 'you could have replied to this thread' argument).

-tom