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Re: [Cfrg] Requesting removal of CFRG co-chair

Yoav Nir <ynir@checkpoint.com> Sat, 28 December 2013 19:06 UTC

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On Dec 28, 2013, at 8:39 PM, Robert Ransom <rransom.8774@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 12/28/13, Tao Effect <contact@taoeffect.com> wrote:
>> Based on Kevin's reply, dated Dec. 26th, it's clear that he has no interest
>> in stepping down as co-chair.
>> 
>> Is there a process in place that would allow the community of the CFRG to
>> vote on the matter?
> 
> IETF does not vote.

What Robert said.

We did not appoint Kevin, so we don't have firing power either. Officially, it was the chair of IRTF who appointed Kevin, so he's the one who can remove him.

On December 21st (that's just a week ago) Lars acknowledged ([1]) Trevor's request.

The rest of the process should be described in RFC 2014 ([2]), but that's missing a lot of stuff. So the rest is my guess of what the process will be like. 

After a few weeks (at least a week after New Year's), when he's satisfied that all the arguments have been made, Lars will consult with David, Kevin, and whoever else he thinks is appropriate, and decide what to do with the petition. 

If Trevor or you or anyone else is not satisfied with Lars's decision, there's likely some avenue of appeal. My guess is first to the IRSG, and if you're still not satisfied, to the IAB.

Yoav

[1] http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/cfrg/current/msg03558.html
[2] http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2014

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