Re: [dnsext] SPF, a cautionary tale

Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> Sun, 05 May 2013 11:06 UTC

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	I looked a 25579 unique domains that have sent me email
	over the last 20 odd years.

	737 (2.88%) failed to resolve when queried with SPF
	of those 737, 178 subequently succeeded with A TXT query

	853 (spf query) + 102 (txt query) of those return a non
	empty answer section (138 + 4 cnames). 

	As far as I can see  success difference between SPF and TXT
	is at the noise level.

	Mark
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