Re: [DNSOP] Expiration impending: <draft-jabley-dnssec-trust-anchor-11.txt>

Richard Lamb <richard.lamb@icann.org> Sat, 31 October 2015 18:36 UTC

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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Expiration impending: <draft-jabley-dnssec-trust-anchor-11.txt>
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Given that there are least three implementations based on this draft in widespread use, IMHO, I believe this draft should move forward as is.  As mentioned below, a stable reference would be useful for implementers like myself. -Rick


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Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Expiration impending: <draft-jabley-dnssec-trust-anchor-11.txt>

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Hi,

On 05/10/15 23:42, Suzanne Woolf wrote:
> All,
> 
> First, thanks to the engaging on this.
> 
> On Oct 5, 2015, at 5:20 PM, "Joe Abley" <jabley@hopcount.ca>
> wrote:
>> 
>> Perhaps it's time to sit back and wait for others here to express an 
>> opinion.
> 
> I'd like to hear opinions from others in the WG with an operational 
> interest in the DNSSEC root trust anchor.

It documents a procedure we implemented, and a stable reference would be a good thing.

> Does this document meet a need you have? If so, how well does it meet 
> the need, and what would it take (if anything) for the document to 
> meet that need more effectively?

Unbound implements the draft in open source, in its own command-line tool 'unbound-anchor'.  It combines a compiled-in root-anchor, with
RFC5011 rollover and this draft.  At the first start it has failover over from the initial anchor to the next option, and this draft is the fallback.  On subsequent invocations it keeps state, a rolling anchor that it keeps track of.  If RFC5011 tracking fails, it uses this draft to fetch the xml file with the new key.  The tool is organisation-agnostic and can also be configured to perform the same mechanics in another environment (eg. test environments).

Best regards, Wouter
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