Re: [DNSOP] Expiration impending: <draft-jabley-dnssec-trust-anchor-11.txt>

manning <bmanning@karoshi.com> Fri, 09 October 2015 02:26 UTC

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perhaps…  I think (well it used to work this way) that regardless of HOW it comes under IETF purview, once it does,
it is no longer under the change control of the submitting organization. 


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On 8October2015Thursday, at 18:10, John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:

>> In the past, when organizations found themselves in the same situation that ICANN seems to find itself in here
>> (at least as outlined by yourself, below)
>> they have done what ICANN has done and is trying to do now, which is to pass the document on to a neutral third
>> party for �safe keeping�.   One thing
>> the IETF used to do was insist that when/if such a document was remedied to its care, that it ALSO claimed change
>> control over same.
> 
> That would suggest it'd be more appropriate for the independent
> stream, wouldn't it?
> 
> R's,
> John
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