Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for draft-knodel-nomcom-gender-representation-00.txt

[Flo D <[e-mail]>]

Hi Mallory,

Thank you for raising this issue and for writing this draft.

Acknowledging that there are some details that need to be ironed out, I think that this is important work and would very much like to see it go forward.

Flo
UK NCSC

From: Mallory Knodel <[e-mail]> 
Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2023 12:02 PM
To: [e-mail]
Subject: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for draft-knodel-nomcom-gender-representation-00.txt

Hi all,
A short draft to consider in the selection of nomcom voting volunteers to ensure minimum gender representation, available here and copied below: 
URL: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-knodel-nomcom-gender-representation-00.txt
Status: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-knodel-nomcom-gender-representation/
HTML: https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-knodel-nomcom-gender-representation-00.html
HTMLized: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-knodel-nomcom-gender-representation

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Operation of the IESG/IAB Nominating and Recall Committees     M. Knodel
Internet-Draft                       Center for Democracy and Technology
Intended status: Informational                          20 November 2023
Expires: 23 May 2024


        Gender Representation in the IETF Nominating Committees
              draft-knodel-nomcom-gender-representation-00

Abstract

   This document extends the existing limit on nomcom representation by
   company in order to improve gender diversity by ensuring that not all
   voting members of the IETF Nominating Committee (nomcom) belong to
   the same gender.

About This Document

   This note is to be removed before publishing as an RFC.

   The latest revision of this draft can be found at
   https://mallory.github.io/nomcom-gender-representation/draft-knodel-
   nomcom-gender-representation.html.  Status information for this
   document may be found at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-
   knodel-nomcom-gender-representation/.

   Discussion of this document takes place on the Operation of the IESG/
   IAB Nominating and Recall Committees Working Group mailing list
   (mailto:[e-mail]), which is archived at
   https://lists.elistx.com/archives/ietf-nomcom/.

   Source for this draft and an issue tracker can be found at
   https://github.com/mallory/nomcom-gender-representation.

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Table of Contents

   1.  Introduction  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   2
   2.  Gender Representation in the IETF Nomcom  . . . . . . . . . .   2
   3.  Suggested Remedy  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   3
   4.  Security Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   3
   5.  IANA Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   3
   6.  Informative References  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   3
   Appendix A.  Acknowledgments  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   4
   Author's Address  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   4

1.  Introduction

   The literature supports the claims that lack of gender diversity in
   hiring teams reinforce under representation of gender minorities in
   leadership positions and that lack of gender diversity in leadership
   perpetuates gender discrimination [Vervoe].

2.  Gender Representation in the IETF Nomcom

   The IETF considers influence and weaknesses in nomcom selection in
   [RFC8713].  Likewise, gender diversity in IETF leadership should be
   considered a community strengthening exercise insofar as gender
   diversity has been shown to lead to more productivity, creativity and
   reinforces a culture of respect and value for all participants.  If
   we consider the nomcom as a "team", it will itself benefit from
   having more gender diversity among its voting members.

   To address gender representation in the IETF nomcom, we need only
   ensure that all voting members are not of the same gender.  All
   attempts to ensure gender representation in the nomcom should
   include: a. increase participation in the community from women and
   non-binary individuals so that the eligible pool is more gender
   diverse.  b. encourage eligible women and non-binary members of the
   community to accept selection to the nomcom.

   While the IETF does not routinely confirm the gender of volunteers,
   we have committed to improving gender diversity in the community by
   way of measuring it and identifying concrete steps to mitigate
   imbalance.

3.  Suggested Remedy

   The “two-per-organisation limit” can easily be extended to ensure a
   nomcom consisting of no more than n-1 members from any one gender
   (where n is the number of available volunteer slots), requiring skips
   for the nth slot until a gender minority volunteer is chosen.

   This assumes that for any given pool therein contains at least one
   gender minority volunteer.

   This short remedy might update [RFC8713].

4.  Security Considerations

   There are no security considerations for this document.

5.  IANA Considerations

   This document has no IANA actions.

6.  Informative References

   [RFC8713]  Kucherawy, M., Ed., Hinden, R., Ed., and J. Livingood,
              Ed., "IAB, IESG, IETF Trust, and IETF LLC Selection,
              Confirmation, and Recall Process: Operation of the IETF
              Nominating and Recall Committees", BCP 10, RFC 8713,
              DOI 10.17487/RFC8713, February 2020,
              https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8713.

   [RFC9389]  Duke, M., "Nominating Committee Eligibility", BCP 10,
              RFC 9389, DOI 10.17487/RFC9389, April 2023,
              https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc9389.

   [Vervoe]   Vervo, "Gender Discrimination in Hiring Practices", 2022,
              https://vervoe.com/gender-discrimination-in-hiring-practices/.

Appendix A.  Acknowledgments

   Thanks to Martin Thompson and Suresh Krishnan for informed initial
   thoughts on bringing this idea to the community.

Author's Address

   Mallory Knodel
   Center for Democracy and Technology
   Email: mailto:[e-mail]