Re: [Gendispatch] New Version Notification for draft-knodel-nomcom-gender-representation-00.txt

[Mallory Knodel <[e-mail]>]

Hi,

On 11/21/23 11:34 AM, Paul Wouters wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Nov 2023, Mallory Knodel wrote:
>
>> A short draft to consider in the selection of nomcom voting 
>> volunteers to ensure minimum gender representation, available here 
>> and copied below:
>
>
>     To address gender representation in the IETF nomcom, we need only 
> ensure that all voting members are not of the same gender.
>
> I find the "need only" a bit odd. We need to do a whole lot of things to
> address gender representation in the IETF nomcom.
>
Sure-- I list a couple others in the main matter. I think I meant this 
as a bare minimum. I can restate it better in the -01.
> I am a bit considered that the selected member could be tweaked by
> discouraging eligble non-male candidates to volunteer. Do we have
> any statistics on the past candidate pools to indicate there would
> be at least several non-male candidates in the pool ?

I guess you're saying that this opens up a new attack on the nomcom 
whereby the pool of gender minorities is reduced to 1. Maybe we just 
need to state that as a risk? It would seem to me we would, if we could, 
try to fix it for its own sake (mutual respect, gender diversity, people 
are kind, etc), not because it would compromise the nomcom.

-Mallory

>
> Then again, even if that concern, I still think change is okay, and
> misuse would still only result in a tiny mindshare change in the nomcom.
>
> Paul

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