Re: [Gendispatch] Exhausted pool [draft-knodel-nomcom-gender-representation-00]

[Brian E Carpenter <[e-mail]>]

On 28-Nov-23 03:12, Salz, Rich wrote:
> Brian and John are wrong; liaisons are not just observers.  From https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8713.html#name-deliberations
>    " All members of the NomCom may participate in all deliberations. The emphasis of this rule is that no member can be explicitly excluded from any deliberation. However, a member may individually choose not to participate in a deliberation.

I am quite sure I wrote nothing inconsistent with that rule. It was John who first used the word "observer" and it is certainly the case that observing the process was a vital part of the job I did when present as ISOC liaison. I wrote "I did not consider it appropriate in that role to do anything within the committee beyond *observing*..." because that is what I felt. (I am quite sure that when asked for a personal opinion, I gave it, but I certainly never gave an "ISOC" opinion.)

> 
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8713.html#name-liaisons lays out more specific durites.

I participated under the rules of RFC 3777, but its definition of the liaison role is about the same. That didn't change what I felt was appropriate.

     Brian