Re: [Gendispatch] Exhausted pool [draft-knodel-nomcom-gender-representation-00]

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From: "Livingood, Jason" <jason_livingood@comcast.com>
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Subject: Re: [Gendispatch] Exhausted pool [draft-knodel-nomcom-gender-representation-00]
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>> There have been NomCom chairs who forbade liaisons to influence the
voting members' decision -- which clearly meant that they could not
give opinions on the candidates in the discussion. I can't give
details because the details are not public, and perhaps that should
have been challenged... but it was not.

> Thanks for the anecdote. It shows why I am concerned that everyone realize that RFC 8713 says otherwise.

FWIW - here is the text from 8713 (especially the 2nd, 3rd, 4th items):

4.7 Liaisons 

Liaisons are responsible for ensuring the NomCom in general and the Chair in particular execute their assigned duties in the best interests of the IETF community.

***Liaisons are expected to represent the views of their respective organizations during the deliberations of the committee. They should provide information as requested or when they believe it would be helpful to the committee.***

***Liaisons are expected to provide information to the NomCom regarding the operation, responsibility, and composition of their respective bodies.***

***Liaisons are expected to convey questions from the committee to their respective organizations and responses to those questions to the committee, as requested by the committee.***

Liaisons are expected to review the operation and executing process of the NomCom and to report any concerns or issues to the Chair of the NomCom immediately. If they cannot resolve the issue between themselves, liaisons must report it according to the dispute resolution process stated elsewhere in this document.

Liaisons from confirming bodies are expected to assist the committee in preparing the testimony it is required to provide with its candidates.

Liaisons may have other NomCom responsibilities as required by their respective organizations or requested by the NomCom, except that such responsibilities may not conflict with any other provisions of this document.

Liaisons do not vote on the selection of candidates.