Re: [i2rs] Kathleen Moriarty's No Objection on draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-l3-topology-08: (with COMMENT), Re: Kathleen Moriarty's No Objection on draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-l3-topology-08: (with COMMENT)

Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-f.com> Mon, 23 January 2017 21:19 UTC

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Subject: Re: [i2rs] Kathleen Moriarty's No Objection on draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-l3-topology-08: (with COMMENT), Re: Kathleen Moriarty's No Objection on draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-l3-topology-08: (with COMMENT)
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Robert Varga <nite@hq.sk> wrote:
> On 01/23/2017 09:26 PM, Martin Bjorklund wrote:
> >> I'm pulling your questions to the top of this email. 
> >>
> >>  
> >>
> >> Question 1: Ok.  Just to make sure I understand this correctly - these
> >> topology models are intended to be I2RS-specific, and they cannot be used
> >> for any other purpose.  If anyone needs a general topology model outside of
> >> the I2RS protocol, they will have to design their own model.  Is this
> >> correct?
> >>
> >>  
> >>
> >> Response 1:  Not really.  
> > Ok, so are you saying that the models are in fact generic, and can be
> > used outside of I2RS?  I.e., they *can* be used with the normal
> > configuration datastores?
> > 
> 
> From implementation experience, yes, they can be used for storing
> configuration. OpenDaylight uses (an ancient predecessor of)
> yang-network-topo to store configure details about devices in its
> managed networks.

Robert, this sub-thread started with Susan's statement:

   1) I2RS Data models do not utilize the configuration data store, 

i.e., despite the fact that the data model is config true, it cannot
be edited via running etc in NETCONF (or normal edit in RESTCONF).

My comment on this was that *if* this is true, it should be noted in
the document.  At this point, I am not sure if it is true or not.


/martin