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Re: [i2rs] Kathleen Moriarty's No Objection on draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-l3-topology-08: (with COMMENT)

"Susan Hares" <shares@ndzh.com> Tue, 24 January 2017 18:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: [i2rs] Kathleen Moriarty's No Objection on draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-l3-topology-08: (with COMMENT)
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Anton: 
I understand you question.  I2RS YANG Models are mostly config=true.
However, these contain a few nodes of operational state (config=false).
We've been focusing on the config=true nodes in the discussion.  You are
right about the config=false nodes. 

Sue 

-----Original Message-----
From: i2rs [mailto:i2rs-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Anton Ivanov
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 1:15 PM
To: Susan Hares; i2rs@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [i2rs] Kathleen Moriarty's No Objection on
draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-l3-topology-08: (with COMMENT)

I am not blaming the messenger.

I am just noting that from my implementer's viewpoint your security concerns
seem different if you are presented as config=true or config=false.

These have a different security model by definition and by implementation in
most cases.

This is in addition to the specific I2RS security concerns.

A.

On 24/01/17 17:50, Susan Hares wrote:
> Anton:
>   
> See earlier message to Martin.  Topology models are I2RS YANG Models 
> designed for ephemeral state with specific security concerns.  This is 
> not your basic YANG model no matter which data store ephemeral gets linked
to.
> Where is ephemeral state?  By IESG Design of charter, I2RS is not in 
> charge of defining ephemeral state solution.  NETMOD/NETCONF are.  Go ask
them.
>
> Do not blame the messenger echoing NETMOD results,
>
> Sue
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: i2rs [mailto:i2rs-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Anton Ivanov
> Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2017 8:30 AM
> To: i2rs@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [i2rs] Kathleen Moriarty's No Objection on
> draft-ietf-i2rs-yang-l3-topology-08: (with COMMENT)
>
> On 24/01/17 11:52, Juergen Schoenwaelder wrote:
>> Susan,
>>
>> so are these YANG models regular YANG models or are these YANG models 
>> specific to the yet to be defined I2RS protocol and yet to be defined 
>> datastores?
>>
>> I think this is the core of Martin's and my question. A simple clear 
>> and concise answer would be nice.
> +1.
>
> A.
>
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