Re: [Idr] IETF LC for IDR-ish document <draft-ietf-grow-bgp-reject-05.txt> (Default EBGP Route Propagation Behavior Without Policies) to Proposed Standard

Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> Tue, 25 April 2017 07:32 UTC

Return-Path: <swmike@swm.pp.se>
X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D619128AB0 for <idr@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 00:32:49 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -4.301
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.301 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=swm.pp.se
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Ve7v2rTZFdzY for <idr@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 00:32:46 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from uplift.swm.pp.se (swm.pp.se [212.247.200.143]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A8E22128896 for <idr@ietf.org>; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 00:32:46 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by uplift.swm.pp.se (Postfix, from userid 501) id 4839AA5; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 09:32:44 +0200 (CEST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=swm.pp.se; s=mail; t=1493105564; bh=HpR5d0escbibyONWBZ5tlj6w8294gtKjVao/99ZjgwQ=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=q1ro+cuGeQ96XisXCbVZc1gkJ6bfMdUp6po7AbVGFqpBzXazBuA3D4U2BhsUXq0P4 GzZxjTXf0zFm20faycmEILPIEpgQYDvV/Q2bz5EKoWIyA50+8zn9PQ+TalN3KFUsrV i0tRWWYueAfiJ7txV/iJ6q31fZvLy6sd+eJpAiGI=
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by uplift.swm.pp.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4591FA4; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 09:32:44 +0200 (CEST)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 09:32:44 +0200
From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
To: bruno.decraene@orange.com
cc: Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>, "Acee Lindem (acee)" <acee@cisco.com>, idr wg <idr@ietf.org>, Hares Susan <shares@ndzh.com>
In-Reply-To: <1058_1493105140_58FEF9F4_1058_786_3_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A31CCAD43@OPEXCLILM21.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1704250930500.5591@uplift.swm.pp.se>
References: <D4E812E8-AA7B-4EA2-A0AC-034AA8922306@juniper.net> <abe393d3-d1e4-7841-4620-38dab751765b@cisco.com> <CA+b+ERnRz8BEO3mb1fnsDPoiL6Wxjdfw9vQPbyODNEa+xCJdnw@mail.gmail.com> <D51D67E4.A9782%acee@cisco.com> <AF07526F-F08B-4084-937B-A9A2D2DD2813@juniper.net> <D51D6AD2.A9795%acee@cisco.com> <CAL9jLaa1UQ5A1FwRKVw5RJCBQO+0j0BW4vUNaPXHB0_JB0j76Q@mail.gmail.com> <1058_1493105140_58FEF9F4_1058_786_3_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A31CCAD43@OPEXCLILM21.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup>
User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14)
Organization: People's Front Against WWW
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII"; format="flowed"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/haPxCyG7XmkouAawna31w8CsJmQ>
Subject: Re: [Idr] IETF LC for IDR-ish document <draft-ietf-grow-bgp-reject-05.txt> (Default EBGP Route Propagation Behavior Without Policies) to Proposed Standard
X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22
Precedence: list
List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing <idr.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/idr>, <mailto:idr-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/idr/>
List-Post: <mailto:idr@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:idr-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr>, <mailto:idr-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 07:32:49 -0000

On Tue, 25 Apr 2017, bruno.decraene@orange.com wrote:

> If this is indeed the goal to make no protocol change, including no 
> default behavior change in the protocol, could the document be updated 
> to state this. In which case, Standard Track may be required.

I re-read https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-grow-bgp-reject-05

As far as I can see, it doesn't do any protocol change. It changes the 
default behaviour a router comes with when it comes to treating routes 
sent/received when there is no policy map applied on the neighbor.

So it suggest a behavioural change, not a protocol change.

-- 
Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se