IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [Idr] IETF LC for IDR-ish document <draft-ietf-grow-bgp-reject-05.txt> (Default EBGP Route Propagation Behavior Without Policies) to Proposed Standard

Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> Tue, 25 April 2017 09:42 UTC

Return-Path: <swmike@swm.pp.se>
X-Original-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: idr@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C714129C1B for <idr@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 02:42:20 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.001
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.001 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=swm.pp.se
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id L5GdR1X8bS3x for <idr@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 02:42:18 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from uplift.swm.pp.se (ipv6.swm.pp.se [IPv6:2a00:801::f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51FBA129BA8 for <idr@ietf.org>; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 02:42:18 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by uplift.swm.pp.se (Postfix, from userid 501) id EF1F6A5; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 11:42:14 +0200 (CEST)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=swm.pp.se; s=mail; t=1493113334; bh=C3JM7vcCcTYSM/M5LKEa7xQtdci6lqNYKSQjE+4Ceng=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=lKqn4vWSUPMyYrR6/bPWnAg16AGpho5nunwPy0k26FkxSnLqMxf1NGyUMISPKxOxr SVxU9dJVYHBpDxb80KQqjSyT+u3RsU1xRaT8jAMAv+oG6NelBT6gMhRz6vRUL/LLCW YedMA69i3b2QzwH9601oOhqYytbP0613khUL+NRc=
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by uplift.swm.pp.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBAFEA4; Tue, 25 Apr 2017 11:42:14 +0200 (CEST)
Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 11:42:14 +0200 (CEST)
From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
To: bruno.decraene@orange.com
cc: idr wg <idr@ietf.org>
In-Reply-To: <9917_1493109125_58FF0985_9917_13726_10_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A31CCB014@OPEXCLILM21.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1704251137160.5591@uplift.swm.pp.se>
References: <D4E812E8-AA7B-4EA2-A0AC-034AA8922306@juniper.net> <abe393d3-d1e4-7841-4620-38dab751765b@cisco.com> <CA+b+ERnRz8BEO3mb1fnsDPoiL6Wxjdfw9vQPbyODNEa+xCJdnw@mail.gmail.com> <D51D67E4.A9782%acee@cisco.com> <AF07526F-F08B-4084-937B-A9A2D2DD2813@juniper.net> <D51D6AD2.A9795%acee@cisco.com> <CAL9jLaa1UQ5A1FwRKVw5RJCBQO+0j0BW4vUNaPXHB0_JB0j76Q@mail.gmail.com> <1058_1493105140_58FEF9F4_1058_786_3_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A31CCAD43@OPEXCLILM21.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <alpine.DEB.2.02.1704250930500.5591@uplift.swm.pp.se> <20393_1493106881_58FF00C1_20393_19903_1_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A31CCAEB1@OPEXCLILM21.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> <alpine.DEB.2.02.1704251000070.5591@uplift.swm.pp.se> <9917_1493109125_58FF0985_9917_13726_10_53C29892C857584299CBF5D05346208A31CCB014@OPEXCLILM21.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup>
User-Agent: Alpine 2.02 (DEB 1266 2009-07-14)
Organization: People's Front Against WWW
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/idr/jcG5-9je57eMW0fFsn0bty1esoY>
Subject: Re: [Idr] IETF LC for IDR-ish document <draft-ietf-grow-bgp-reject-05.txt> (Default EBGP Route Propagation Behavior Without Policies) to Proposed Standard
X-BeenThere: idr@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22
Precedence: list
List-Id: Inter-Domain Routing <idr.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/idr>, <mailto:idr-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/idr/>
List-Post: <mailto:idr@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:idr-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/idr>, <mailto:idr-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2017 09:42:20 -0000

On Tue, 25 Apr 2017, bruno.decraene@orange.com wrote:

> My reading would be "Implementations which by default advertise all 
> their BGP routes over an EBGP session plus have a CLI not allowing the 
> EBGP session and its associated policy to be configured atomically 
> create frequent involuntary route leaks in the Internet, including in 
> the absence of any configuration error. Possibly, this may be only one 
> part of the problem, but here would be a good document to explicit those 
> operational issues. (rather than complying that IDR do not listen to 
> operational feedback)

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7908 already documents the problem with 
"route leaks". What you're asking for is as far as I can tell already 
documented there.

Perhaps not the *WHY* (as in operator error in configuring things 
correctly), but that's exactly what draft-ietf-grow-bgp-reject is about.

-- 
Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se

v2.1.10 | Report a Bug | By Email