Re: Publishing list of non-paying IETF attendees, was Re: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Sun, 14 November 2010 18:59 UTC
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From: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
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Subject: Re: Publishing list of non-paying IETF attendees, was Re: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets
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--On Sunday, November 14, 2010 10:20 -0500 Marshall Eubanks <tme@americafree.tv> wrote: >> How many of those are volunteers/host/NOC/future host, and >> how many are "discretionary comp"? > > There was exactly 1 "discretionary" in Beijing. > > Wearing no hats, and just my own personal opinion, this seems > like making a mountain out of a molehill to me. More like an entire range of mountains out of an anthill. I think there is one, and only one, case that would be relevant to the community: if an IETF Chair who is up for renomination ever comps a nomcom member, the Nomcom (chair should probably be informed and given permission to share the information with the nomcom if there is any evidence of improper behavior. I don't personally consider that the decision to comp the participant would itself be improper (although it might be questionable judgment for the nomcom member to ask and for the IETF Chair to agree), but behavior on the nomcom that appeared to reflect influence from the decision would be. I obviously don't have data but my guess is that this situation has never arisen. I guess the same principle would apply even more strongly to a recall committee member but the frequency with which the recall mechanism has been used makes the likelihood of a problem even lower. I do not believe the Nomcom or recall cases require any specific rules. Indeed, I believe that accumulation of rules to deal with such very unlikely and infrequent cases hurts the community far more than the theoretical problems the the rule might solve. john
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