Re: Publishing list of non-paying IETF attendees, was Re: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets
Yoav Nir <ynir@checkpoint.com> Sun, 14 November 2010 10:08 UTC
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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:08:29 +0200
Subject: Re: Publishing list of non-paying IETF attendees, was Re: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets
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On Nov 14, 2010, at 10:06 AM, SM wrote: > At 04:03 12-11-10, Shane Kerr wrote: >> It is sometimes possible to create systems to meet the needs of privacy >> and oversight - for example a closed review board - but I think just >> publishing a list of who gets free access to each IETF is probably good >> a good idea. > > There is already an IETF Administrative Oversight Committee (see BCP > 101). Approximately 2% of attendees received complementary tickets How many of those are volunteers/host/NOC/future host, and how many are "discretionary comp"? Does the IAOC have access to the actual list of names? If so, I think that's good enough, because the corruption that we're trying to solve would require collaboration between the IETF chair and the IAOC. I would say that the risk is low enough that privacy trumps transparency.
- Re: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets Yoav Nir
- Publishing list of non-paying IETF attendees, was… Shane Kerr
- Re: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets James M. Polk
- Re: Publishing list of non-paying IETF attendees,… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: Publishing list of non-paying IETF attendees,… SM
- Re: Publishing list of non-paying IETF attendees,… Yoav Nir
- Re: Publishing list of non-paying IETF attendees,… Marshall Eubanks
- Re: Publishing list of non-paying IETF attendees,… John C Klensin
- Re: Publishing list of non-paying IETF attendees,… SM
- Re: Publishing list of non-paying IETF attendees,… Yoav Nir
- Re: Publishing list of non-paying IETF attendees,… Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets Lucy Lynch
- RE: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets Yoav Nir
- Re: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets Richard L. Barnes
- Re: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets Bob Hinden
- Re: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets Scott Brim
- Re: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
- Re: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets bill manning
- Re: Publishing list of non-paying IETF attendees,… Bert
- Re: Publishing list of non-paying IETF attendees,… bill manning
- RE: Publishing list of non-paying IETF attendees,… Worley, Dale R (Dale)