Re: Publishing list of non-paying IETF attendees, was Re: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets

SM <sm@resistor.net> Sun, 14 November 2010 20:51 UTC

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Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 12:50:37 -0800
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Subject: Re: Publishing list of non-paying IETF attendees, was Re: [IAOC] Badges and blue sheets
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Hi Yoav,

Here's the executive sound-bite:

   [Allegations of corruption on the news ticker]
   The IETF Chair is giving out free tickets.

Paying attendees vote for an "everyone pays" policy.

At 02:08 14-11-10, Yoav Nir wrote:
>How many of those are volunteers/host/NOC/future host, and how many 
>are "discretionary comp"?

Approximately 4% of attendees received complementary host 
tickets.  The second part of your question has already been answered.

These are rough figures and may vary widely per meeting.  62% of 
meeting revenue is from registration fees.  23% of meeting revenue is 
from sponsorships.  Total expenses is 65% of meeting revenue.  18% of 
expenses is on cookies.  17% of expenses is for the network and connectivity.

>Does the IAOC have access to the actual list of names?  If so, I 
>think that's good

Probably. The IAOC can get the list of names if it ask for it.

>enough, because the corruption that we're trying to solve would 
>require collaboration between the IETF chair and the IAOC. I would 
>say that the risk is low enough that privacy trumps transparency.

As you used the term "corruption", I'll go with it. The corruption 
can be solved by charging everyone, including NOC and hosts, for 
tickets.  It is likely that such a solution will increase meeting 
costs and decrease sponsorship revenue.  The price of the ticket may 
have to be increased.  This looks more like the law of unintended 
consequences instead of corruption.

Regards,
-sm