Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technical discussion.
Emil Ivov <emil@jitsi.org> Sun, 06 June 2021 07:13 UTC
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From: Emil Ivov <emil@jitsi.org>
Date: Sun, 06 Jun 2021 02:13:14 -0500
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Subject: Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technical discussion.
To: Larry Masinter <LMM@acm.org>
Cc: Dean Willis <dean.willis@softarmor.com>, Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>, ietf@ietf.org
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Ironically, advising *others* how *they* should follow Postel’s principle is exactly the opposite of the principle. On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 00:44 Larry Masinter <LMM@acm.org> wrote: > This is the argument about Postel's principle (conservative in what you > send, liberal in what you accept) in layer 9. > It seems to me that Facebook is doing just fine slowing down (24 hours) > the possible propagation of violence incitement without requiring a lot of > judgement on what does or does not constitute thoughtful vs. inciteful > speech. > > "Kill them all and let TCP sort it out" can readily be expressed in other > terms. A content moderation policy that slowed down frequent postings (by > 24 hours) might temper heated conversations and lead to calmer > considerations of the actual requirements. > > > I hereby propose we censor Facebook engineers in IETF meetings for > promoting stupidity. > > Can public forums improve the quality of discussion by delaying frequent, > divisive posters? > Is trying to do so really "promoting stupidity"? (Obligatory 😊) > > -- > https://LarryMasinter.net https://interlisp.org > > -- sent from my mobile
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- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Töma Gavrichenkov
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Dean Willis
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Jared Mauch
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Dean Willis
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- RE: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Larry Masinter
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Emil Ivov
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Christian Hopps
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Salz, Rich
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Dean Willis
- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Salz, Rich
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- Re: Why we really can't use Facebook for technica… Fred Baker
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