Re: [rtcweb] Alternative decision process in RTCWeb

Hector Santos <hsantos@isdg.net> Wed, 04 December 2013 00:21 UTC

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On 12/3/2013 9:50 AM, Ted Lemon wrote:
> On Dec 3, 2013, at 7:46 AM, Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com> wrote:
>> And twenty years later the market still hasn't decided between S/MIME and PGP.
>> Or maybe it has decided none of the above.
>
> S/MIME has wide implementation, but little deployment.   PGP has little implementation and little deployment.   I think the what the market has said is "we don't really care about this."
>

I never got it to work well and if I did, it didn't offer anything of 
incredible value.  Its also gives one the Cry Wolf syndrome -- what if 
that one time it failed, what does it mean?  Do you accept it? It is 
real? and so on.

Just consider DKIM itself.  I don't get the IETF here.

It just KILLED the #1 one protection layer for it - ADSP (making it 
historic, but to what?), that helped receivers with deterministic 
security guidance its long hard debated security considerations wanted 
to help protect domain owners and its (mail reading) users! Abandoned, 
in my strong business/engineering opinion, for no other reason but due 
to its competition with the trust/reputation framework entities.  I 
didn't get it because everyone can have a piece of the cake and eat it 
too!

Go figure.

The problem with RTCWEB, WebRTC, WebSockets (we need a dummies guide 
for this now), is that it is still a moving target.   We can use this 
technology in the BBS world (Application server/Intranet market) to 
help bring back a "terminal" A.K.A. now with the "Browser," full 
duplex communications back to backend servers.

We been looking at this (intelligent any device frontends) since the 
early 2000, but its all been moving too fast. RTCWEB/WebRTC/WebSockets 
(which is it?) looks promising to help with single sourcing this type 
of product lines.  I hope the IETF can help manage, lead and mature 
the technology with all the principle vendors and still do it with 
cooperative competition, public domain, and no conflict of interest in 
mind.

-- 
HLS