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Re: Deprecating IPv6 (Re: draft-bourbaki-6man-classless-ipv6-00)

Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com> Mon, 05 June 2017 07:00 UTC

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From: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2017 15:59:43 +0900
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Subject: Re: Deprecating IPv6 (Re: draft-bourbaki-6man-classless-ipv6-00)
To: Matthew Petach <mpetach@netflight.com>
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On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 1:57 PM, Matthew Petach <mpetach@netflight.com>
wrote:

> Along comes Thag,
> with a sharpened stick, ready to join the hunt.  Early
> man looks at it and says "wait...that looks dangerous;
> someone could use that the wrong way, and hurt
> themselves, or potentially hurt me.  Rather than
> take that risk, and potentially learn new, more
> efficient ways of getting food, let's just ban it
> now, before anyone gets any new ideas.


While we're in the realm of not-directly-applicable analogies, would note
that if you substitute "sharpened stick" for "rocket launcher" most people
would agree that they should be banned.

This draft isn't saying you *have* to use a bit boundary
> other than /64; it's simply saying you have the *option*
> to do so, if you like.


You have this option today. As Job will tell you, you can manually
configure a /117 and it will work on pretty much any implementation. What
you don't have are the ability to claim that others should support your
/117 network, and the ability to define automatic configuration mechanisms
for your /117 network.

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