Re: [Json] -0.0

R S <sayrer@gmail.com> Fri, 27 September 2013 22:20 UTC

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Further, let me hasten to add that this thread is titled "-0.0" and I wrote:

> I don't think there is a rationale for the text on -0.0.

I did not write "negative zero" or "-0".

I think this thread and the text in the draft shows that the WG didn't
fully understand what the chairs took to be consensus. It was nearly a
mistake, but it would have been *fine* if the WG let the existing
"implementations may place limitations on the range of numbers accepted"
text stand. Why not do that?

- Rob



On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 3:15 PM, R S <sayrer@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Friday, September 27, 2013, R S wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 2:48 PM, Matt Miller (mamille2) <
>> mamille2@cisco.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> It appears to me that we are rehashing arguments made when this text was
>>> first discussed.  Are we bringing up any new considerations here?
>>>
>>
>> Yes. The text in the current draft refers to both -0 and -0.0 as though
>> they are interoperable.
>>
>
> Rather, it refers to them both as though they have the same
> interoperability considerations.
>
> - Rob
>