Re: [mpls] Poll 2: New SPL vs re-purposed ELI for carrying Network Action Indicators
Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> Wed, 08 June 2022 15:51 UTC
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Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2022 08:51:35 -0700
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Subject: Re: [mpls] Poll 2: New SPL vs re-purposed ELI for carrying Network Action Indicators
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Hi Bruno, thank you for pointing that out to me. I recall our earlier discussion about this, and I feel that I need to clarify my position: - draft-decraene-mpls-slid-encoded-entropy-label-id, by itself, does not address the MNA requirements listed in draft-ietf-mpls-miad-mna-requirements - to address the MNA requirements using ELI, one needs to use draft-jags-mpls-ext-hdr - draft-jags-mpls-ext-hdr is not backward compatible with RFC 6790 and RFC 8662. I hope that makes my point clearer. I greatly appreciate your questions and comments. Regards, Greg On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 8:44 AM <bruno.decraene@orange.com> wrote: > Greg, > > > > Extending the ELI as per draft-decraene-mpls-slid-encoded-entropy-label-id > does not break RFC 6790 nor RFC8662. > > If you believe that it does, please cites the sentences from both > draft-decraene-mpls-slid-encoded-entropy-label-id and RFC/6790/8662 that > would contradict each other or would be incompatible. > > > > Thank you, > > --Bruno > > > > *From:* mpls <mpls-bounces@ietf.org> *On Behalf Of *Greg Mirsky > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 31, 2022 4:44 PM > *To:* Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> > *Cc:* mpls@ietf.org; mpls-chairs@ietf.org; pals-chairs@ietf.org; DetNet > Chairs <detnet-chairs@ietf.org> > *Subject:* Re: [mpls] Poll 2: New SPL vs re-purposed ELI for carrying > Network Action Indicators > > > > Dear Loa, MPLS WG Chairs, Open DT, et al., > > I believe that re-using ELI to address the requirements listed in > draft-ietf-mpls-miad-mna-requirements will definitely break implementations > of RFC 6790 and RFC 8662. Thus I oppose re-using ELI to indicate the > presence of an MNA in a packet. I think that the specifics of the mechanism > indicating the presence of an MNA should be discussed separately from the > framework document. > > > > Regards, > > Greg > > > > On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 2:21 PM Loa Andersson <loa@pi.nu> wrote: > > MPLS Working Group, MPLS Open DT, > > The MPLS Network Actions (MNA) framework requires a method of indicating > the presence of a Network Action and any Ancillary Data. > > Is the consensus of the working group that we do this by: > > (1) allocating a new SPL for Network Action Indicators? > > (2) re-purposing the ELI SPL? > > (3) using some other method of indicating this such as making it an > additional property of an ordinary label? > > Please respond to the MPLS WG mail list. > > Loa Andersson > for the Open DT wg chairs > > -- > Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu > Senior MPLS Expert loa.pi.nu@gmail.com > Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > > > > Orange Restricted > > _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > Ce message et ses pieces jointes peuvent contenir des informations confidentielles ou privilegiees et ne doivent donc > pas etre diffuses, exploites ou copies sans autorisation. Si vous avez recu ce message par erreur, veuillez le signaler > a l'expediteur et le detruire ainsi que les pieces jointes. Les messages electroniques etant susceptibles d'alteration, > Orange decline toute responsabilite si ce message a ete altere, deforme ou falsifie. Merci. > > This message and its attachments may contain confidential or privileged information that may be protected by law; > they should not be distributed, used or copied without authorisation. > If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender and delete this message and its attachments. > As emails may be altered, Orange is not liable for messages that have been modified, changed or falsified. > Thank you. > >
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