Re: [mpls] Poll 2: New SPL vs re-purposed ELI for carrying Network Action Indicators

Adrian Farrel <adrian@olddog.co.uk> Wed, 08 June 2022 21:34 UTC

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Subject: Re: [mpls] Poll 2: New SPL vs re-purposed ELI for carrying Network Action Indicators
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Hi again, Loa,

> The MPLS Network Actions (MNA) framework requires a method of
> indicating the presence of a Network Action and any Ancillary Data.
>
> Is the consensus of the working group that we do this by:

> (1) allocating a new SPL for Network Action Indicators?

This is my preference of the three options that Loa floated. And I agree with Kireeti that using a bSPL is the right thing (we have some spare, and this approach uses one label for a large set of Network Actions).

> (2) re-purposing the ELI SPL?

No way! 😊

Bruno and Zafar cast this as "extending" the ELI. In other words, in their view, this approach is backwards compatible with existing ELI deployments. This may be technically possible, but I still don't like it because I don't think it is a clean separation of functions.

Conversely, some people see this as reclaiming the ELI for a new purpose.
If the ELI is to be "reclaimed" then we need to go through a careful round of surveying implementations and a "cool-off" period during which the label is marked as deprecated.
If we think we don't need the ELI, we should start this now, but it is a separate action.

> (3) using some other method of indicating this such as making it an
>     additional property of an ordinary label?

I'm open to this, but I haven't seen a credible suggestion that is backward compatible.

Tony added...

> (4) allocating a new SPL for a Network Action Sub-stack.

I think this is more embracing than 1)

Joel says...

> Stating how we do indicating information seems to belong
> in solution drafts.

I could live with deferring this decision, but I hope we have only one solution for this particular point, so making that decision and putting it in the Framework is also OK.

Cheers,
Adrian