Re: [mpls] Poll 2: New SPL vs re-purposed ELI for carrying Network Action Indicators
Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> Wed, 08 June 2022 15:45 UTC
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Subject: Re: [mpls] Poll 2: New SPL vs re-purposed ELI for carrying Network Action Indicators
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Hi Zafar, I have a question about your conclusion. You've said In summary, IMO the progression of draft-decraene-mpls-slid-encoded-entropy-label-id as the “starting” point should not be mixed up with the question in this poll. Do you believe that the solution proposed in draft-decraene-mpls-slid-encoded-entropy-label-id does not address MNA requirements listed in draft-ietf-mpls-miad-mna-requirements <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-mpls-miad-mna-requirements/>? looking forward to hear your thoughts on how you see the relationship between raft-decraene-mpls-slid-encoded-entropy-label-id and the list of the MNA requirements that, as I understand, the WG agreed in principle as a good starting point to work on? Regards, Greg On Sun, Jun 5, 2022 at 8:37 PM Zafar Ali (zali) <zali= 40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > Dear chairs and the WG: > > I feel, we need to qualify the scope of the “(2) re-purposing the ELI SPL” > question > I.e., we need to answer the poll from a short term perspective and the > long term view > > As discussed during the PALS session at IETF113, > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-decraene-mpls-slid-encoded-entropy-label-id/ > meets our immediate needs; thanks to the following attributes: > * Hardware efficient > + It minimized the label stack (EL is used for both the load-balancing > and the immediate additional use-cases with "8" indicators) > * Enables faster and incremental deployments > + Thanks to wide support of ELI on current HW > + Preserves the backward compatibility (with legacy devices) > * Reuses control plan > + Does not require extensions to signal support (in BGP, ISIS, OSPF, > BGP-LS, LDP, RSVP-TE, etc.) > > In summary, IMO the progression of > draft-decraene-mpls-slid-encoded-entropy-label-id as the “starting” point > should not be mixed up with the question in this poll > > Thanks > > Regards … Zafar > > > On 5/30/22, 5:22 PM, "mpls on behalf of Loa Andersson" < > mpls-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of loa@pi.nu> wrote: > > MPLS Working Group, MPLS Open DT, > > The MPLS Network Actions (MNA) framework requires a method of > indicating > the presence of a Network Action and any Ancillary Data. > > Is the consensus of the working group that we do this by: > > (1) allocating a new SPL for Network Action Indicators? > > (2) re-purposing the ELI SPL? > > (3) using some other method of indicating this such as making it an > additional property of an ordinary label? > > Please respond to the MPLS WG mail list. > > Loa Andersson > for the Open DT wg chairs > > -- > Loa Andersson email: loa@pi.nu > Senior MPLS Expert loa.pi.nu@gmail.com > Bronze Dragon Consulting phone: +46 739 81 21 64 > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls > > _______________________________________________ > mpls mailing list > mpls@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/mpls >
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- Re: [mpls] Poll 2: New SPL vs re-purposed ELI for… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [mpls] Poll 2: New SPL vs re-purposed ELI for… Zafar Ali (zali)
- Re: [mpls] Poll 2: New SPL vs re-purposed ELI for… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [mpls] Poll 2: New SPL vs re-purposed ELI for… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [mpls] Poll 2: New SPL vs re-purposed ELI for… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [mpls] Poll 2: New SPL vs re-purposed ELI for… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [mpls] Poll 2: New SPL vs re-purposed ELI for… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [mpls] Poll 2: New SPL vs re-purposed ELI for… bruno.decraene
- Re: [mpls] Poll 2: New SPL vs re-purposed ELI for… bruno.decraene
- Re: [mpls] Poll 2: New SPL vs re-purposed ELI for… Greg Mirsky
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