Re: [Netconf] YangPush now

Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net> Thu, 12 July 2018 18:48 UTC

Return-Path: <kwatsen@juniper.net>
X-Original-To: netconf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: netconf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84407131160 for <netconf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 11:48:08 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.701
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=juniper.net
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id JWT6aZF7tFJl for <netconf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 11:48:06 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mx0b-00273201.pphosted.com (mx0a-00273201.pphosted.com [208.84.65.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3BFD5130E61 for <netconf@ietf.org>; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 11:48:06 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from pps.filterd (m0108157.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by mx0a-00273201.pphosted.com (8.16.0.22/8.16.0.22) with SMTP id w6CIhrti018874; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 11:48:05 -0700
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=juniper.net; h=from : to : cc : subject : date : message-id : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-id : content-transfer-encoding : mime-version; s=PPS1017; bh=ZFKwNwrYZi/PYuSuPG4QDcsC1Eipeoe4L3+H2QE7K6M=; b=vL16BTeKFKDjMryzR4g1HR00KfJPdUCSVNPm3XKQJqAdA2inSN7kq7gPXHDj0cKVrILg Wr2Qakp4cF/3UvJUQd/rMIpT1vY8xnbKNjqno2vp9DJIOe+j+qsFQNIANJWbC6sggYzA ABOONVCo9xgI6JMLpmehGjWkxOzdqY8y9p5Dc4pKlp/HJuV1/6QSIbnC7KLcBbzQyd+Z hT1qRuMvczG6WrmZiwzy00P+CetTlA3FJH3zXYw5LDkMT8a8wdVF9oQFEQCHhASYC6MR QG7+eVYmW+7/0bRRaKRF4N/Ad3A/XItGEEuPZWhfRXzzZ84gzeMVY/+3htsT/HTSv3ko QA==
Received: from nam02-cy1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-cys01nam02lp0048.outbound.protection.outlook.com [207.46.163.48]) by mx0a-00273201.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 2k6c8b81c0-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Thu, 12 Jul 2018 11:48:05 -0700
Received: from BYAPR05MB4230.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (52.135.200.153) by BYAPR05MB4664.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (52.135.233.78) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.973.12; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 18:48:03 +0000
Received: from BYAPR05MB4230.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::959d:9fbe:90e4:3cc]) by BYAPR05MB4230.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::959d:9fbe:90e4:3cc%4]) with mapi id 15.20.0952.017; Thu, 12 Jul 2018 18:48:03 +0000
From: Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net>
To: Henk Birkholz <henk.birkholz@sit.fraunhofer.de>, Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com>, Robert Wilton <rwilton=40cisco.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
CC: Netconf <netconf@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [Netconf] YangPush now
Thread-Index: AQHUGEz9myzpyoyNqk27+aT9H3fHiqSKOxiAgAAIT4CAAVUBgIAAFagA
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 18:48:03 +0000
Message-ID: <82693DB7-91C7-4172-A3CE-FDA3A638E191@juniper.net>
References: <20180708100310.gn3xaol66f7c7lo5@anna.jacobs.jacobs-university.de> <20180708.180552.1582913595227099806.mbj@tail-f.com> <20180708175359.mdcjgvddb453e2fc@anna.jacobs.jacobs-university.de> <20180708.202727.1096638437748786994.mbj@tail-f.com> <B0DEB8BF-A652-43E5-8F35-A9732F4FE04A@juniper.net> <6d12e0fb-7bcc-8533-f783-f4d5fb4b0ce2@ericsson.com> <683740ff-2bb1-c702-6cd8-ea2eb4bf733a@cisco.com> <CABCOCHRiZTE8GSHvQrbRTnBVjciRqPVco1aTXHmZqFTWef5+iQ@mail.gmail.com> <2590ad5e-26cd-6955-fb3f-677a05035606@sit.fraunhofer.de>
In-Reply-To: <2590ad5e-26cd-6955-fb3f-677a05035606@sit.fraunhofer.de>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/f.20.0.170309
x-originating-ip: [66.129.241.11]
x-ms-publictraffictype: Email
x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; BYAPR05MB4664; 6:joMRxKSRnNgqyslMmb/POaZioQRWjtYY/bvs+SCRCstM+V9ZNvIsKNgd/a7rJAH6PQZPa6YRViT04Zejcy5vLZhXpG+6yFF1ib2ITHW9DyB4vHMir9iSwHjz0bdDdw2AIIc+ptyp8OIHjQkDJyMf3PFDq/BBhTMhr2BMprIQSAHZ4qu3FEt9A8Op9GG5GxFjOGjslfMgWqoCfdx9isvWmdEY5e+5a0/L8lsa28uMDHdrSryF9u+l6iccQhnhbjBCuJisI2vMZGxzPH7sl0oZ0LKsMjUBMm0TmGIfI5fokvfKaWhWn026wFXsxnYE3LnKjtoNwPqrrUpdoV9/r595MdDSUHf+7z4LsV4+sytWxyQRP5oFLI+WSik7p+xyL511D724srilVXNq0zU4epQsCB29IyXU9n2lWZjuK9/Qvyn703qvzPI7hey3YWV1/NFUrCf0DImBAFwWpOcQvkA+Ag==; 5:nkIRoEQybBmiIxHRdVHyhTKdF8GkDs47VrR+tpL36qaYD0D2S/Am92t0Az/K6B+AReK9beX97THcSQ+w/uKSVMrihPynm46d9lYzMAdbHMrNrE7QwNiWCPhS/PMxLficuPGXqJ60bmEICDF2SRdATZOM8js+wu6buH9ijrDRwjg=; 7:DCAWGqW+htbHwYZXOdrEmYO+A6z3C7YZP9noCjvZ+kB0mzL2izixJ8VApM51ye3lyGHxZXVcQE0uh+0K1qpEj7y0Ye6bxdwZTaftCubVd1wivAt1N45lwtMwDS1LLjsO6cZay+Z55pbnnsyXA5iHMC9kXWmH/2gw1qQcza3IpopZouk6AL8BV7vXsj91Ob3XtphM8YoAEU0q6j+a7UPkPNS4fecV9q507NR7g5scz0ggmO6zNcCbsft1N+JytAU2
x-ms-exchange-antispam-srfa-diagnostics: SOS;
x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 4899ec76-32b0-41b7-40b4-08d5e827ffb5
x-ms-office365-filtering-ht: Tenant
x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(7020095)(4652040)(8989117)(5600053)(711020)(4534165)(4627221)(201703031133081)(201702281549075)(8990107)(48565401081)(2017052603328)(7153060)(7193020); SRVR:BYAPR05MB4664;
x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: BYAPR05MB4664:
x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: <BYAPR05MB466422781A059AAFD0D103ADA5590@BYAPR05MB4664.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:;
x-ms-exchange-senderadcheck: 1
x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(8211001083)(6040522)(2401047)(8121501046)(5005006)(3002001)(3231311)(944501410)(52105095)(10201501046)(93006095)(93001095)(6055026)(149027)(150027)(6041310)(201703131423095)(201702281528075)(20161123555045)(201703061421075)(201703061406153)(20161123560045)(20161123564045)(20161123558120)(20161123562045)(6072148)(201708071742011)(7699016); SRVR:BYAPR05MB4664; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:BYAPR05MB4664;
x-forefront-prvs: 0731AA2DE6
x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(366004)(136003)(396003)(346002)(376002)(39860400002)(189003)(199004)(105586002)(106356001)(8936002)(81156014)(83716003)(99286004)(81166006)(4326008)(93886005)(26005)(256004)(25786009)(186003)(102836004)(5250100002)(6506007)(97736004)(5660300001)(82746002)(446003)(486006)(6116002)(86362001)(3846002)(316002)(58126008)(2616005)(110136005)(8676002)(11346002)(476003)(66066001)(33656002)(2906002)(305945005)(229853002)(6486002)(36756003)(7736002)(478600001)(68736007)(2900100001)(6436002)(6512007)(76176011)(14454004)(6246003)(53936002); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BYAPR05MB4664; H:BYAPR05MB4230.namprd05.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; LANG:en; PTR:InfoNoRecords; MX:1; A:1;
received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: juniper.net does not designate permitted sender hosts)
x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: c8pSEGpO9bGwgivhJudfHz+LlhI84uHOlWO2SJbtoW2H6D82Tf+RWAm/KR3wUcKqrqJqGDv+ZYTYWZsS7KijfwYowK0UF3Hveh4stVYA4BNgcCTTM7MEttWs0Vf9V7vzmpMqV7vvyyParFR58VbqfPkCG7togvGeI/wkX+/oGpNN0CNSHpPdKAEAKVb6D4FcEnxcPa+UqD4/oBL/4iUjQxL3PyAkY6awn6AQnA+I4u12r90R1IP+mJmFsLvjyUU5EMxoA8w5IjZTunqnYOQqfM2LbYo7qJDp5jzXGB8oCXOVcJWXVxF7+8s0/CisMJ3kxwVfIyWLrT/piHp3mkSIdDPGRK5h+DIZUfPHFzdi2U8=
spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99
spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-ID: <CE38369819EF694B88617D1691FEF242@namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 4899ec76-32b0-41b7-40b4-08d5e827ffb5
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 12 Jul 2018 18:48:03.2899 (UTC)
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: bea78b3c-4cdb-4130-854a-1d193232e5f4
X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BYAPR05MB4664
X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:, , definitions=2018-07-12_07:, , signatures=0
X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_spam_notspam policy=outbound_spam score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=999 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1806210000 definitions=main-1807120197
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/netconf/Ah-nfFiJKNhSED_2_chXCI54cjk>
Subject: Re: [Netconf] YangPush now
X-BeenThere: netconf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27
Precedence: list
List-Id: Network Configuration WG mailing list <netconf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/netconf>, <mailto:netconf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/netconf/>
List-Post: <mailto:netconf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:netconf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf>, <mailto:netconf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2018 18:48:09 -0000

> I would like to strongly +1 retaining the configured subscriptions (not 
> necessarily in the Push draft itself for the sake of expediting WGLC or 
> modularity)

Ah, so here's another hum question: with or without yang push.

hums now are:

 1. dynamic subscriptions ~ configured subscriptions
   a. dynamic first, then configured (published sequentially)
   b. dynamic and configure together (published in parallel)

 2. subscribed-notifications ~ yang-push
   a. SN first, then YP  (published sequentially)
   b. SN and YP together (published in parallel)

Eric/Alex: please include a slide with this somewhere in your preso.

Thanks,
Kent // chair