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Re: [Netconf] Anyone want just Configured Subscriptions? (was RE: LC on subscribed-notifications-10)

Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net> Thu, 05 July 2018 16:40 UTC

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From: Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net>
To: "Eric Voit (evoit)" <evoit@cisco.com>, Andy Bierman <andy@yumaworks.com>
CC: Henk Birkholz <henk.birkholz@sit.fraunhofer.de>, "netconf@ietf.org" <netconf@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [Netconf] Anyone want just Configured Subscriptions? (was RE: LC on subscribed-notifications-10)
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Subject: Re: [Netconf] Anyone want just Configured Subscriptions? (was RE: LC on subscribed-notifications-10)
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Hi Eric,

> The open question here is whether we mandate the NETCONF call-home work as
> a dependency.    If the WG wishes, we could close WGLC on Subscribed-notifications
> and YANG-push, and leave just NETCONF-Notif open until ietf-netconf-server 
> completes.  But the downside would be that it would leave NETCONF transport
> for dynamic subscriptions undefined. 
 
Just focusing on the "downside" here, how would it be undefined?  Since it is a
*dynamic* subscription, the transport is the same as the one the client used to
connect to the server with.  Perhaps you mean that it wouldn't be possible for
the client to know (other than simply trying the establish-subscription RPC) if
SN is supported for the specific transport used between the client and the server.
For this, I believe it is sufficient for the client to look for the SN module 
in yang-library, since the yang-library response is server-specific (rfc7895bis,
Section 1, paragraph 4).  Do you agree?

Kent

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