IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [Netconf] Anyone want just Configured Subscriptions?

Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net> Tue, 10 July 2018 20:37 UTC

Return-Path: <kwatsen@juniper.net>
X-Original-To: netconf@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: netconf@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB79D13104F for <netconf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 13:37:36 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.701
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.701 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=juniper.net
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id A9sPoCiJ4MVU for <netconf@ietfa.amsl.com>; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 13:37:35 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mx0b-00273201.pphosted.com (mx0a-00273201.pphosted.com [208.84.65.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 10A29130E99 for <netconf@ietf.org>; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 13:37:34 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from pps.filterd (m0108157.ppops.net [127.0.0.1]) by mx0a-00273201.pphosted.com (8.16.0.22/8.16.0.22) with SMTP id w6AKXhkM017813; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 13:37:32 -0700
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=juniper.net; h=from : to : cc : subject : date : message-id : references : in-reply-to : content-type : content-id : content-transfer-encoding : mime-version; s=PPS1017; bh=RI2obXF04CbExdVKdIqSmtxekOQX12QMLhUH2MXmtbM=; b=1G8D8bM5b4HkXSJKn7wt9nbWhxtvWBXFZvUr3Bpn2OTIhTCXuW8tiSOk/2eH7T4P0kKb cLZeZjUTK4Lf2wUVWJ2OkcsvAbdAJbc7Myo/b2f99Ei1X1cRXcF+a/PUIOT+WWmuokxZ hJGbd+X5OtNWu5ulf5oNBg5ahehRgerA0StPT8wJY+1YQ3WmOwDhzZQKTax+AU+DE44p qK355pMul2RUgzj1kTPKXPhmrQLJROVYOGVRLbYJoGeduVnITBbp2/Zm5zmjwKs5rQDS ywOl16vrQu65kPyPCCJefuQm2yYyF/JS8/nESK5tDn1O4Dum1YRcrF6L3Yr7dPF/T7M2 mw==
Received: from nam05-by2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-by2nam05lp0243.outbound.protection.outlook.com [216.32.181.243]) by mx0a-00273201.pphosted.com with ESMTP id 2k4s8jsdt2-1 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Tue, 10 Jul 2018 13:37:32 -0700
Received: from BYAPR05MB4230.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (52.135.200.153) by BYAPR05MB4295.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (52.135.202.18) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.952.10; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:37:30 +0000
Received: from BYAPR05MB4230.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::959d:9fbe:90e4:3cc]) by BYAPR05MB4230.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([fe80::959d:9fbe:90e4:3cc%4]) with mapi id 15.20.0952.013; Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:37:30 +0000
From: Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net>
To: Juergen Schoenwaelder <j.schoenwaelder@jacobs-university.de>, "Eric Voit (evoit)" <evoit@cisco.com>
CC: Netconf <netconf@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: [Netconf] Anyone want just Configured Subscriptions?
Thread-Index: AQHUFdzgMgOM7HOBqEO/3ZzYZXUeNKSDugSAgABHKwCAAA3RgIAA6BaAgAAi8ACAAGVWAIAABZ+AgACylACAAZLQAIAA11mAgAA+CgD//80aAA==
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:37:30 +0000
Message-ID: <051A20E4-26D0-41C9-B93D-2A094E46EFBA@juniper.net>
References: <CABCOCHSfzpj3Kca2RRtNFV6wLLt_6r4p3vfS_j4Hzfai-0Y2gA@mail.gmail.com> <20180708.095807.918450792556408986.mbj@tail-f.com> <20180708100310.gn3xaol66f7c7lo5@anna.jacobs.jacobs-university.de> <20180708.180552.1582913595227099806.mbj@tail-f.com> <CABCOCHQfirYPAVJwLELnqw0VJ=js7aFNX9wB7Xcs6Tkw06w1hw@mail.gmail.com> <9c3799f19cf84b22a3659c04a548ba67@XCH-RTP-013.cisco.com> <CABCOCHT=7-dPzTPYLvVN1J12uwGWh9GoA7r5nu=zYYD1nnFwTQ@mail.gmail.com> <273f987e3a224411a01a599afb42f25f@XCH-RTP-013.cisco.com> <20180710193940.jsslo3657wwee6ku@anna.jacobs.jacobs-university.de>
In-Reply-To: <20180710193940.jsslo3657wwee6ku@anna.jacobs.jacobs-university.de>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
user-agent: Microsoft-MacOutlook/f.20.0.170309
x-originating-ip: [66.129.241.11]
x-ms-publictraffictype: Email
x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1; BYAPR05MB4295; 7:NUhjT1Fu0ejGgnoeeBDAQJr5lRwKk8Rbs3cSHMTvHdR00d4gdU2oC0cklBlqxgUlFOjMgG+g2kiCbses6fhE47kA3sdXmisO+pqJcF12QkMmH2WhRZ+smUVAaSizPQWginQuwpzpPCZHHpR4P3SFLVRFZkmWCoLrEwSUu00eSHT/aW7fEp73tJcYQePyLf78EMxiAOW5l8Jx/IAl087RyzSlrld8+8SX0HvbZP+9QOTPvShvf9jX3bVhehRfRQIg
x-ms-exchange-antispam-srfa-diagnostics: SOS;
x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 66acb5e6-7d5f-4051-cf71-08d5e6a4f548
x-ms-office365-filtering-ht: Tenant
x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(7020095)(4652040)(8989117)(5600053)(711020)(4534165)(4627221)(201703031133081)(201702281549075)(8990107)(48565401081)(2017052603328)(7153060)(7193020); SRVR:BYAPR05MB4295;
x-ms-traffictypediagnostic: BYAPR05MB4295:
x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: <BYAPR05MB429581CE01777E5772F3A151A55B0@BYAPR05MB4295.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:(158342451672863);
x-ms-exchange-senderadcheck: 1
x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(8211001083)(6040522)(2401047)(8121501046)(5005006)(3231311)(944501410)(52105095)(3002001)(10201501046)(93006095)(93001095)(6055026)(149027)(150027)(6041310)(20161123560045)(201703131423095)(201702281528075)(20161123555045)(201703061421075)(201703061406153)(20161123562045)(20161123558120)(20161123564045)(6072148)(201708071742011)(7699016); SRVR:BYAPR05MB4295; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:BYAPR05MB4295;
x-forefront-prvs: 0729050452
x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(396003)(366004)(136003)(39860400002)(376002)(346002)(199004)(189003)(33656002)(6436002)(97736004)(5660300001)(229853002)(6512007)(66066001)(6246003)(82746002)(14454004)(5250100002)(4326008)(53936002)(478600001)(6486002)(106356001)(36756003)(105586002)(25786009)(83716003)(68736007)(3846002)(8676002)(6116002)(81156014)(316002)(186003)(7736002)(305945005)(110136005)(58126008)(86362001)(2900100001)(486006)(2906002)(11346002)(93886005)(6506007)(14444005)(81166006)(256004)(26005)(102836004)(99286004)(476003)(8936002)(446003)(76176011)(2616005); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:BYAPR05MB4295; H:BYAPR05MB4230.namprd05.prod.outlook.com; FPR:; SPF:None; LANG:en; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1;
received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: juniper.net does not designate permitted sender hosts)
x-microsoft-antispam-message-info: Ay7+aGQS/os0bCcuqu0vhUulJUi1UX6pi8LtetnYr8oeotUlEeha2fiNiDUbF8As9y1Eescq1M/IP1AAH9BRessAmw6mmZr+HxzDj89X4qK9ocqUHeu9laDGhDXOAegdQcaiRpThJT/yJqsz+E/RizHsQU1bNPddKD5Q83kK5ikhFwifn2E9y4edoWwESPxaEkPNx/JTQQJaEcjJKhyYrw4aSdwg9I7YxpL9qfoasuijH45JS3uVRhhKr/2c76Ye+3QSJd2SzaBDcRDKLx0urYZg2GYCln7+FaSdRojDOxR1r62PZhbk3RjKtpT07UPFHu86p8UO4PL7M8Id34AOYvUlzA0o9t+jXZJ6QQM0gYg=
spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:99
spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-ID: <D11E02FC922E8F43A2FADDACF30CE239@namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-OriginatorOrg: juniper.net
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 66acb5e6-7d5f-4051-cf71-08d5e6a4f548
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 10 Jul 2018 20:37:30.5576 (UTC)
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: bea78b3c-4cdb-4130-854a-1d193232e5f4
X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: BYAPR05MB4295
X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10434:, , definitions=2018-07-10_07:, , signatures=0
X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=outbound_spam_notspam policy=outbound_spam score=0 priorityscore=1501 malwarescore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 lowpriorityscore=0 mlxscore=0 impostorscore=0 mlxlogscore=678 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1806210000 definitions=main-1807100218
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/netconf/Fg2YTnLVZPhWDlQpARqnU6VEP1g>
Subject: Re: [Netconf] Anyone want just Configured Subscriptions?
X-BeenThere: netconf@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27
Precedence: list
List-Id: Network Configuration WG mailing list <netconf.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/netconf>, <mailto:netconf-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/netconf/>
List-Post: <mailto:netconf@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:netconf-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/netconf>, <mailto:netconf-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 20:37:37 -0000


> So in short, after RFC 8071 call home, you get NC/RC client and server
> starting with a <hello> exchange. Ideally, the client would indicate
> its readiness to receive unsolicited notifications before you push
> notifications to the client (and the notification sender may even be
> interested to know that it is sending notifications to a remote system
> that does not just drop them). So either the clients invokes an RPC to
> start the notification flow or, if you want to optimize one round
> trip, the client includes a special
>
>  :willing-to-receive-unsolicited-notifications
>
> capability in the <hello> exchange.

I agree that a client-advertised capability would be goodness here, but
it only works for NC-clients, there is no corollary for RC-clients.  

Maybe clients should send a "willing-to-receive-unsolicited-notifications"
RPC instead?


Kent // contributor

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email