Re: [Netconf] YangPush now
Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net> Thu, 19 July 2018 22:58 UTC
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From: Kent Watsen <kwatsen@juniper.net>
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Subject: Re: [Netconf] YangPush now
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>>1. make the augmentation of a "notif" model mandatory (see the '+' lines >> below), to ensure that there is always something more than just a name >> being configured per receiver. >> >> container receivers { >> list receiver { >> key "name"; >> min-elements 1; >> leaf name { >> type string; >> } >> + choice transport { >> + mandatory true; >> + description >> + "Defines the transport-specific configuration data >> + for the selected transport."; >> + } > > The notion of an empty mandatory choice really stretches the definition > of YANG Conformance. This says you cannot possible implement the SN > module without some other module augmenting it. Correct. > Yet there is no way in YANG (besides import) to say the module bar > needs to be present if module foo is present. Why is this a problem? Servers will do the right thing, and the draft is clearer for it. >> 2. modify netconf-notif to augment-in the ietf-netconf-server grouping: >> >> module ietf-netconf-notifications { >> prefix nn; >> import ietf-netconf-server { prefix ncs; } >> import ietf-subscribed-notifications { prefix sn; } >> >> // define a *local* netconf-server instance >> container "netconf-server" { >> uses "ncs:netconf-server-grouping" { >> // prune out the "listen" subtree >> refine "listen" { >> if-feature "never-supported-feature"; >> } >> // disable dependency on the "call-home" feature >> refine "call-home" { >> if-feature "true"; // needed? (see 7950, s7.20.2, P3) >> // valid? (unsure) >> } >> } >> } > > The use of constant (true or false) values for if-feature are > not supported Wasn't sure about that. Is there another way to achieve the same? > and the use of dummy features that are always supposed to be a > constant value seems to abuse the intent of YANG features. This was discussed on the NETMOD list in the last few days. See the "removing a node from a grouping" thread. I agree that it's not ideal, but it appears to be legal. Just filed yang-next#48 to track this for future improvement. > Refactoring the groupings would be the cleanest solution. Not always possible, such as in this case. >> // add leafref to above locally-configured call-home instances >> augment "/sn:subscriptions/sn:subscription/sn:receivers/sn:receiver" { >> leaf netconf-endpoint { >> type leafref { >> path "/nn:netconf-server/nn:call-home/nn:netconf-client/nn:name"; >> } >> } >> } >> } >> >> >> 3. do the identical thing to the restconf-nofif draft: >> >> module ietf-restconf-notifications { >> prefix rn; >> import ietf-restconf-server { prefix rcs; } >> import ietf-subscribed-notifications { prefix sn; } >> >> // define a *local* restconf-server instance >> container "restconf-server" { >> uses "rcs:restconf-server-grouping" { >> // prune out the "listen" subtree >> refine "listen" { >> if-feature "never-supported-feature"; >> } >> // disable dependency on the "call-home" feature >> refine "call-home" { >> if-feature "true"; // needed? (see 7950, s7.20.2, P3) >> // valid? (unsure) >> } >> } >> } >> >> // add leafref to above locally-configured call-home instances >> augment "/sn:subscriptions/sn:subscription/sn:receivers/sn:receiver" { >> leaf restconf-endpoint { >> type leafref { >> path "/rn:restconf-server/rn:call-home/rn:netconf-client/rn:name"; >> } >> } >> } >> } > > > The problem with identityref leafs is that the client has no clue > what the server will support. The problem gets much worse for the > client dealing with a mandatory empty choice. How so? If the server implements the notif module, the augment shows up, right? > Andy Kent // contributor
- Re: [Netconf] Anyone want just Configured Subscri… Balazs Lengyel
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