Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columbia University in the City of New York's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-nsis-tunnel-13

Hi Jukka, Hi all

Before, deciding on one of the listed options, I would like to know what the
FRAND policies 
are if the protocol moves to standards track?

Is it not possible to change the description of the IPR disclosure and use
the 
same IETF patent policy as the one used by other companies, e.g., by Cisco?

Best regards,
Georgios

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsis-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:nsis-bounces@ietf.org] On 
> Behalf Of Jukka Manner
> Sent: vrijdag 3 december 2010 17:45
> To: nsis
> Subject: Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columbia 
> University in the City of New York's Statement about IPR 
> related to draft-ietf-nsis-tunnel-13
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> The authors of draft-ietf-nsis-tunnel have disclosed an IPR 
> that affects the accepted, but not yet published, NSIS document.
> 
> We need guidance from the working group on how to proceed:
> 
> a) Do members of the WG accept those terms,
> b) Do you want to redesign the protocol to work around the IPR,
> c) Do you want to ask Columbia to modify the terms, or
> d) Do we drop the document from the WG (authors can still 
> pursue publications through the independent track)?
> 
> Items a) and d) let's us continue with the publication 
> procedure (for item d) we just remove references to the work 
> from the mobility applicability document). Items b) and c) 
> will need considerable work and since the WG is closing, I 
> would like to avoid them.
> 
> Please indicate your preference within two weeks, by Friday 17th at:
> 
> http://www.doodle.com/mb2gvfit64bnya99
> 
> Regards,
> Jukka
> 
> On 12/03/2010 06:00 PM, IETF Secretariat wrote:
> > Dear Charles Shen, Sung-Hyuck Lee, Henning Schulzrinne, Jong Bang:
> >
> > An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft 
> entitled "NSIS 
> > Operation Over IP Tunnels" (draft-ietf-nsis-tunnel) was 
> submitted to 
> > the IETF Secretariat on 2010-12-02 and has been posted on the "IETF 
> > Page of Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures" 
> > (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1456/). The title of the IPR 
> > disclosure is "The Trustees of Columbia University in the 
> City of New York's Statement about IPR related to 
> draft-ietf-nsis-tunnel-13."
> >
> > The IETF Secretariat
> >
> >
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