Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columbia University in the City of New York's Statement about IPR related to draft-ietf-nsis-tunnel-13

Hi Calvin, I'm not an expert in how people should or should not disclose 
and phrase ipr statements. I hope other people on this list who are more 
experienced could provide guidance on how to resolve this issue in a 
positive way.

Regards,
Jukka

On 8.12.2010 20:17, Calvin Chu wrote:
> All,
>
> I've just subscribed to the list so I'm trying to catch up to the
> current conversation.
>
> I'm open to modifying the terms, please send me suggestions.  As to
> whether Columbia would just modify the terms arbitrarily later, I could
> get it into writing if that helps.
>
> I've been informed there are some questions regarding the specific FRAND
> terms in non-open source commercial situations. My thoughts were to set
> a simple flat fee for that sole situation.   If this is reasonable, I
> can defer to members of this list to suggest what may be fair.  If this
> does not sound reasonable, I'll do my best to make things right by this
> list members, after all, Columbia neglected to declare on time.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Calvin Chu
> Senior Licensing Officer
> Columbia Technology Ventures
> http://techventures.columbia.edu
> Tel: (212) 851-4140
> Twitter: cchu
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsis-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:nsis-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
> Roland Bless
> Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 4:24 AM
> To: Fu, Xiaoming
> Cc: Jukka Manner; nsis@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [NSIS] IPR Disclosure: The Trustees of Columbia University
> in the City of New York's Statement about IPR related to
> draft-ietf-nsis-tunnel-13
>
> Hi,
>
> [sorry, previous message was cut, I accidentally hit the send button
> instead of the edit menu :-)]
>
> On 08.12.2010 08:55, Fu, Xiaoming wrote:
>> I would vote for c).
>
> It's not clear to me what prevents the Columbia University
> from changing terms back later if they are changing the terms
> now on our request?
>
>> a) Do members of the WG accept those terms,
>> b) Do you want to redesign the protocol to work around the IPR,
>> c) Do you want to ask Columbia to modify the terms, or
>> d) Do we drop the document from the WG (authors can still pursue
> publications through the independent track)?
>
> Jukka said:
>> Please indicate your preference within two weeks, by Friday 17th at:
>>
>> http://www.doodle.com/mb2gvfit64bnya99
>
> Regards,
>   Roland
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